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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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plengo

I thought about an idea how this could work.

Take the rotor Romero did and its coils. There is one less magnet than coil. Cogging is there. Imagine now that we balance things so that cogging is even in every step, magnet approaching coil and passing by with net energy equal 0.

Now, if you spin the rotor fast enough it will somehow spin for a long time with zero energy loss caused by the cogging and only resistance losses. The energy necessary to pass the cogging is gained back as soon as it pass the coil, if repulsion is used as the mechanism. Such as Romero's design.

So far nothing new, no OU. Now, connect the coils to loads, such as 10 ohms resistors and again, balance the wheel by using distance of the magnets and coils and other ways so that cogging is again there but net zero with one difference now, we have a load and heat is created on the resistors. No OU yet, only more losses because of Lenz-laws.

Now, let's imagine that if the closed path of the whole wheel is balanced, as the rotor spins we generate electricity by the coils and the counter-EMF that increases the resistance of the cogging therefore causing greater losses.

How to fix that, imagine that if the closed magnetic path is very balanced in every step of the magnets passing by the coils will always have equal forces on all the points (magnets and coils) but what would happen if in one point we either loose some of the balance via making a magnet flux less intense, would not that cause the rotor to spin one revolution and cog at that unbalanced point?

Would be possible to now unbalance the opposing magnet/coil and restore the current magnet/coil balance causing the rotor to spin again with zero net loss/gain only paying for the unbalancing energy cost?

Would be possible to use the loads on the coils to be elements that cause that unbalance while using the energy generated when the rotor spins because the unbalance magnetic closed path flux?

I remember Romero saying that was very important to tune the motor with the proper load already connected so that the balancing would be specific to that load?

It sounds to me that one could create a very balanced closed path magnetic flux rotor where the coils are the pulsating unbalancing actors for causing the rotor to spin indefinitely only paying for the unbalancing cost which is NOT proportional to the strength of the rotation of the rotor. The rotor will spin proportional to the total magnetic energy in place, stronger magnets stronger spins and therefore more energy generated and less energy necessary to cause unbalance.

Please, shoot my idea.

Fausto.

pese

Quote from: wings on May 11, 2011, 04:33:32 PM
scaled up ?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcnISxcx1nI&feature=player_profilepage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdCSbLdKVJw&feature=player_profilepage

Videos,
Say nothing
Show nothing
only confusing tangle wire
not comprehensible
Meters ads.

NONSENSE!

(RomeroUK  YTubes are better to "over-view"

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Quote from: plengo on May 11, 2011, 09:31:54 PM
I thought about an idea how this could work.

Take the rotor Romero did and its coils. There is one less magnet than coil. Cogging is there. Imagine now that we balance things so that cogging is even in every step, magnet approaching coil and passing by with net energy equal 0.

Now, if you spin the rotor fast enough it will somehow spin for a long time with zero energy loss caused by the cogging and only resistance losses. The energy necessary to pass the cogging is gained back as soon as it pass the coil, if repulsion is used as the mechanism. Such as Romero's design.

So far nothing new, no OU. Now, connect the coils to loads, such as 10 ohms resistors and again, balance the wheel by using distance of the magnets and coils and other ways so that cogging is again there but net zero with one difference now, we have a load and heat is created on the resistors. No OU yet, only more losses because of Lenz-laws.

Now, let's imagine that if the closed path of the whole wheel is balanced, as the rotor spins we generate electricity by the coils and the counter-EMF that increases the resistance of the cogging therefore causing greater losses.

How to fix that, imagine that if the closed magnetic path is very balanced in every step of the magnets passing by the coils will always have equal forces on all the points (magnets and coils) but what would happen if in one point we either loose some of the balance via making a magnet flux less intense, would not that cause the rotor to spin one revolution and cog at that unbalanced point?

Would be possible to now unbalance the opposing magnet/coil and restore the current magnet/coil balance causing the rotor to spin again with zero net loss/gain only paying for the unbalancing energy cost?

Would be possible to use the loads on the coils to be elements that cause that unbalance while using the energy generated when the rotor spins because the unbalance magnetic closed path flux?

I remember Romero saying that was very important to tune the motor with the proper load already connected so that the balancing would be specific to that load?

It sounds to me that one could create a very balanced closed path magnetic flux rotor where the coils are the pulsating unbalancing actors for causing the rotor to spin indefinitely only paying for the unbalancing cost which is NOT proportional to the strength of the rotation of the rotor. The rotor will spin proportional to the total magnetic energy in place, stronger magnets stronger spins and therefore more energy generated and less energy necessary to cause unbalance.

Please, shoot my idea.

Fausto.

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Just being myself.
Jerry 8)

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How to safely release your OU device and get it out to thousands of people and dozens of web sites: 

first you buy a laptop or netbook with WiFi.  pay cash for it and make sure you can't be traced to it in any way.  computers had unique ID's which can be traced online in some cases.  get one off craigslist or similar.  maybe even have a friend pick it up for you.  we're talking paranoid level V here.  but it will be peace of mind. 

next you totally document how to build and tune your device down to the most minute detail so any one who can read would be able to replicate it.  have a complete parts source list and multiple places to get thing would be best. 

get a wifi extender antenna or one of several devices to give you a little more range.  if you know about wifi war-driving than i don't need to say much more but that will not be necessary unless you choose to try it that way.  just pick a nice rainy day if possible and take a drive an hour or two from where you live.  add more time as needed for the truly paranoid.  you have already picked a spot in another city that has free Wifi like a starbucks, mcdonalds or coffee shop or whatever.  you can find free wifi hot spots on the internet.  use a proxy when searching for them. 

  you've already got your complete document in pdf ready to upload.  you may even have a keystroke recorder or similar program that once you start it will fire off your document to many sites and forums.  done right it could take only a minute or two.  but if you are not into keystroke recorders than just have it all planned out ahead where you are uploading and posting.  email people also like stefan and others you know will gladly share it.  at the most you should be able to do all this from your car in 10 minutes.  you have your wifi extender so you don't even need to go in the place.  many places you would not even need an extender as i've used many wifi hot spots from out in the parking lot. 

you've done it!  the world will have free energy!!!!!   if you think you want to include something unique in a separate document so you could claim your fame some day then make a separate document with a brief encrypted message and use something like AES.  Then take that document and encrypt it with Triple Blowfish or some other uncrackable encryption.  Only you will know the message so some day if you choose you release the passwords (very long ones) and the world will know who to thank.  by then big oil and big energy are out of business largely except for lubricating the machines every one now has thanks to you !
   
  if anyone would like to add any improvements to this plan fire away as this is just off the top of my head.