Muller Dynamo

[ZeroFossilFuel]

As it was said this is a basic generator yes the halls do seem to work in that manner this is really not out of the ordinary there is something else we are missing aside from the halls and such I believe in the end if it works as proposed we will find it works not because of just one said thing but a number of things. I mean think about it for any device to run there needs to be at least two sources of energy. Electric and Fuel for most things but even lets say a hydroelectric damn there is water and gravity a wind turbine wind and gravity. All things that I can think of take two forms of energy. Even a steam engine uses heat and pressurized water vapor as a fuel the sterling engine uses heat and pressurized air. There is at least two sources of energy in everything I know of and more then that in many I am sure I have missed some factors in even what I have mentioned. Any way they were just examples from where I form my theory upon.

I think people need to really take the warning from RomeroUK serious and really try to replicate rather then design something it seems as if he is pointing out the hard obvious facts and everything I have seen so far is nothing like what romerouk has built it has all been attempts to replicate the device but not true replication not even a scale replica for that matter. I think we need to completely copy his work in order to achieve what we seek and while I have tried to point this out without being rude just waiting and talking rather then building but I must admit I am aware of the fact how easy it can be to play arm chair quarterback and will tell you sometimes some of the most hitting home comments on improvement in different areas while piercing in annoyance was actually in the end good advice to follow right from the arm chairs mouth.

I wish everyone success possibly even more success may come out of a different design but I don't think the idea should be thrown out until we have true replication is all.

End of rambling:

Come on Romero be a sport throw in your 10 dollars cause it will surely be better then my 2 cents.

Keep in mind that he said scale is of less importance and that if he had to do it over again he would have used bigger diameter cores. Also, IMHO, not only do you need to balance the PM fields for as close to zero cogging as possible, you also need to balance the field strength of each coil pair.

[Tudi]

analizing that scope i would say that at pull the voltage increases almost lineary, at "drag", it is almost completly eliminated, the voltage drops quickly, there is a "silent" phase, probably exactly when the magnet is escaping the holding field.
About the OU gain, the scope is supposed to slowly crawl upwards instead downwards ? After all, the device is supposed to store more and more energy ( unless regulated by the darn DC2DC converter ) in "itself"

[nul-points]

Sorry if that bring some noise to the discussion, but I don't understand why the scope shot Romero posted is slowly translating down through time ? is it supposed to be a voltage scope ? what does that mean ?

hi tanakat

i think you had some problems posting this trace before, a few days ago?

anyway i left an answer near that post to what i guessed was going to be your question:

[...]
it looks like member 'tanakat' was trying to point out about the variation of the scope shot peaks as the trace crosses the scope

this is likely to be the modulating effect of 50 Hz utility power pickup by the unshielded coils on the device - so the trace width period will be a reasonable proportion of 20ms...

a trace width probably less than 5ms - because it's less than 1 half-cycle (10ms) and also it hasn't yet passed the peak halfway thro the 10ms

if that was true, then the timebase would be 0.5ms or less
[...]
cheers
np

hope this helps
np


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[k4zep]

Lousy posting dealing with similar thoughts here:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/7982-muller-generator-replication-romerouk-6.html#post140621

Thanks Oscar, Most helpful.  Ben K4ZEP

[nul-points]

Thanks Oscar, Most helpful.  Ben K4ZEP

hi Ben

did you catch the earlier posts & link from neptune & me, re: Parametric Conversion (changing inductance)?

cheers
np


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