Muller Dynamo

[hartiberlin]

Hi Laurent,
it woould really help if you could post a video with many scopeshots,
so we see, what is going on in your motor.
Maybe you can show the different setups and how the scopeshots
change then ?

That would really help to nail down the effects and maybe we can help you
then to further explore it.

Many thanks in advance.
Regards, Stefan.

[woopy]

Hi Stephan

yes this video

betrween 2.14 and 2.24

at 2.24 you clearly see the red wire going from the FWBR positive to somewhere under the device .

And if you follow the Romero driver shematic it is clear that if you want to short the gen coils,  you have to connect the positive of the parallel FWBR to the emitter of the PNP transistor (that is to say to the driving coil of the bottom stator) and the negative rail to the collector ,that is to say the input negative.

I have tested and the shorting works. Now the tuning of all this is another story and is to be made.

Will go on this way to see what happens, because without this possibility i am stopped ,as i have tried almost all what was available without succes(always no litze wire arrived yet)

As a remainder, i got max 35 % efficiency, And Romero shows a cop 2 and more(because the lost in the DC-DC converter) . So something giant must happen here or it is a fake.

As i am only at the beginning of this road, please don't ask me too much scope shot. I need some reflexion here.

Perhaps other replicator could try this ,in order to see if it is OK

good luck at all

Laurent

[hartiberlin]

Hi Stephan

yes this video

betrween 2.14 and 2.24

at 2.24 you clearly see the red wire going from the FWBR positive to somewhere under the device .

And if you follow the Romero driver shematic it is clear that if you want to short the gen coils,  you have to connect the positive of the parallel FWBR to the emitter of the PNP transistor (that is to say to the driving coil of the bottom stator) and the negative rail to the collector ,that is to say the input negative.

Hi Laurent,
I think this is not possible, because if you look closely at the circuit diagram you will
then short out the 15 Volts at the cap directly via the PNP transistor to ground.
This way your transistor will die very quickly cause there is no preload resistor, just a total
short !

So I don´t think that he used it this way..

I have tested and the shorting works. Now the tuning of all this is another story and is to be made.

Will go on this way to see what happens, because without this possibility i am stopped ,as i have tried almost all what was available without succes(always no litze wire arrived yet)

As a remainder, i got max 35 % efficiency, And Romero shows a cop 2 and more(because the lost in the DC-DC converter) . So something giant must happen here or it is a fake.

As i am only at the beginning of this road, please don't ask me too much scope shot. I need some reflexion here.

Perhaps other replicator could try this ,in order to see if it is OK

good luck at all

Laurent

Hmm, if you can´t show us your motor in action, too bad...
I still wonder, why you had one coilpair produce more voltage than the others
from your last scopeshots...
Maybe you should also put switches into your coils like Clanzer
has done it, so you can invert the coil polarisation just with a simple
switching.
Then it will be easier to tune for maximum output.

Maybe also the Litz wire really helps or will have a new effect we have not seen
yet...

Would be really cool, if you could at least show your motor on video.
Also from failure we could learn a lot.

Regards, Stefan.

[hartiberlin]

@Laurent:

If you want to try coil shorting with your device,
it would be a better idea to use just a multivibrator
and use this to shortout all coils constantly on/off
all the time maybe with around 1 to 10 Khz frequency.
This will give nice induction spikes as in the Newman motor.

Therefore you would only need 1 square wave generator and
7 MOSFETs (for each coil pair one MOSFET).

( You don´t need to shortout the coils only at maximum peak,
this will also work at all other amplitudes as Newman has shown
in his motors...!)

To do the coil shorting just after the FWBR would be probably
not too good for the diodes as you shortout then the full
generator voltage to ground and the shortout current goes
fully through the diodes of the FWBR , so lost energy.
Also you would shortout then the collector cap.

Regards, Stefan.

[konehead]

I've built a lot of Mullergenrators and done a lot of coil shorting on them too
before I get into how to do it, I think you guys should first copy the Romero mcahine as it is, and really take a close look at those helper/biasing/regauaing magnets behind the cores.
See if you can get the geneators coils to hit a load wihtout "reflecting" extra draw to the mtoor part of it (or make motor run on lower draw when coils hit load even) using only those magnets behind the cores first..

Anyways, with coil-shorting subject, you sould use BIDIRECTIONAL mosfets, since these switch AC (thanks Gyuala) ....simply hook the gate and source together with two mosfets, and the swtiching occurs between drain #1 and drain #2.
If you dont do this, you will catach only half the possible energy when coil shorting.
Also your mosfets must be high-amperage, very low resistance type or the extra resistance kills everything - using a solid state relay, or a SCR, are a couple of swtiches that will not work with coil-shorting since their resistance is too high...put mosfets in paralell to lower resistance even more if you want (Ismael trick)
this is why using a reed switch to do coil shoritng works so easy - they will swtihc AC, and they have very low resistance....but they also will blow up very easily too, so stick with bidirectional mosfets.
Also important thing, is to not put the extra-power/voltafge you make with coil shorting "directly" into the load...this will also kill all the big gains in power/voltage -

instead put what is made from coil-shoritng into a DC "collector" cap, after going through a FWBR....AC legs of FWBR across the coil-leads being shorted.
Then knock theis DC cap into you load - but do it at the same time the "source" (the coil bieng shorted) is disconnected from the DC collector cap - so there is no way the cap hitting load will affect draw to the primary.
this is called a two-stage output, and also this is confirmed with Ismael too, that this is way to extract power from coil-shorting.

Finally, you "should" have the short occur at the peak period - if AC, then peaks of pos an neg sine, if DC pulsed, at the peak of that DC peak you see on scope.
Woopy brings up very interesting idea - why not short all those out-of-phase gernator coils "at once" and forget about having each one have its own bidirectional mosfet and halleffect and bridge and cap - just treat all the those 18 out-ot-phase gernator coils like one big coil and short it see what happens - sounds like a lot of fun to me - this coil shorting thing is something I discovered by accident many years ago using reed swtich on 32 magnet mullergen and voltage in coil would go up from 20 to 240V in bilnk of eye so I knew it was something important,  but I couldnt do it "soild state" for years until Ismael told me to use very low resistance mosfets, and maybe 4 or 5 in paralell too - THEN it worked for me (that was last summer) I know Woopy and Romero did some youtube videos using reed switches and also Ovi has really nice reliable shorting-coil solid state circuit that he uses in motorcycle ignitions and did great video of getting 900V or so into cap and so Ovi knows all about it too (and has known for years too)...but really its all new-territorym the coil-shorting, and  nothing is set in stone - for example Ovi doesnt worry about the peak pereiods to short in his circuit while Ismale and I think its veryimportant...and now woopy talks about shoring 9 out of phase coils at once....so try eveything you think up - Laurents idea of shorting all coils at once sounds like great idea its simple might work excellent. 
In the past, I have run all out-of-phase coilsin series and used them as "one big motor coil" before and it worked very great making a mullergen into a motor (my "boat motor") - and pulling backemf made the motor run twice as fast too...very strange...
also you can run all those genratorcoils in series, and take out power like one big coil too why not and forget about all those rectifiers - another route of experiments!...and so might as well short them all at once too see what happens like Woopy did.
Romero is rectiffying them all at once, and also "regaugning" theire cores all at once with magnets behind the cores all at once too...

What is trying to be acheived here is a "no lenz" generator"  - get power out from it without affecting draw to motor...coil-shorting is one way to do it - lets see if those magnets behind the cores will do it too first... and then combine the techs later make gobs of power from nothing and lets get Romero back on the ball too once he has an army of looper-mechanics behind him to protect him and everyone else working on free energy machines...