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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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chrisC

Quote from: poynt99 on June 12, 2011, 11:33:11 AM
All,

Has anyone here produced a video demonstrating the "speed under load" effect? Link please?

Thanks,
.99

see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5cdhOmwofI a few post back

chrisC

scratchrobot

Quote from: keykhin on June 12, 2011, 08:23:26 AM
I've been busy yesterday, Take a look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5cdhOmwofI

Congrats very nice demonstration, please help us replicate that effect.
Maybe you can describe exactly what you did and what components you used?

Regards,
scratchrobot

lumen


I think it is now easier to see the entire operating principal. It's not just resonance, but near resonance is required and it's not a standing wave, since anything that draws from a standing wave will serve to consume the standing wave as the power factor in increased.

So now slow motion?
The rotor magnet approaches the coil and induces voltage, but there is no current for two reasons.

1: The coil is essentially not connected because the load does not show up until the voltage reaches a level where it engages the load. (12v possibly )

2: The coil inductance and load capacitance create a low resonate frequency that further delays the current flow.

The current flow is what will do useful work and also causes lenz force to cause rotor load, but at this time lenz was delayed to a point where the rotor magnet is already directly under the coil and any lenz force pushing on the magnet only can serve to push the rotor faster or have no effect at all!

The magnet is forced out and the inverse phase begins. The coil field collapses and current is again pulled from the coil in the reverse direction, again with an inverted and delayed lenz force which at this time only serves to pull on the incoming rotor magnet.

Unfortunately this process may never be able to be applied to a MEG device because the forces applied from lenz, though delayed, are currently applied against a permanent magnet and at no cost, but in a MEG system these forces will always be applied against another coil to induce negative effect.





bolt

I think it is now easier to see the entire operating principal. It's not just resonance, but near resonance is required and it's not a standing wave, since anything that draws from a standing wave will serve to consume the standing wave as the power factor in increased.

ONLY if you allow that to happen.

So now slow motion?
The rotor magnet approaches the coil and induces voltage, but there is no current for two reasons.

1: The coil is essentially not connected because the load does not show up until the voltage reaches a level where it engages the load. (12v possibly )

True but what happens when the source voltage is 0.1v higher than the load demand? Instant lugging without employing other methods.

2: The coil inductance and load capacitance create a low resonate frequency that further delays the current flow.

Yes already the PF is shifted as desired.

The current flow is what will do useful work and also causes lenz force to cause rotor load, but at this time lenz was delayed to a point where the rotor magnet is already directly under the coil and any lenz force pushing on the magnet only can serve to push the rotor faster or have no effect at all!

Looking for a faster rotor is an artefact.   In the first instance we look for no lugging at the desired speed of the rotor which runs in incremental harmonic steps with the load.. RV can suddenly latch in to harmonic octaves and increment speed latching onto higher harmonics increases energy as VARS runs to several KVARS and the motor literately explodes!

The magnet is forced out and the inverse phase begins. The coil field collapses and current is again pulled from the coil in the reverse direction, again with an inverted and delayed lenz force which at this time only serves to pull on the incoming rotor magnet.

Unfortunately this process may never be able to be applied to a MEG device because the forces applied from lenz, though delayed, are currently applied against a permanent magnet and at no cost, but in a MEG system these forces will always be applied against another coil to induce negative effect.

Correct in your analysis but false for it not working as Isamael MEG is already a 1000w OU device with a COP of 2.7

lumen

Quote from: bolt on June 12, 2011, 02:07:59 PM


Correct in your analysis but false for it not working as Isamael MEG is already a 1000w OU device with a COP of 2.7


I have seen a thousand claims, but I have only seen one that is self running!