Power ratio over one

[hartiberlin]

Now David,
it would maybe much easier, if you would substitute the teeter-totter,
just with a rotational commutator device, so you can really run
this device with real rotations and can thus get very high RPMs
and thus much more output power.

You can very easily convert your circuit to a Newman type commutator.
You just only need to put some plastic tape onto your axis
and put one battery contact scratching to your axis via a wire
and then use another wire, which touches the part of the
taped axis for each rotation only maybe 45 degrees.

So you tape the end of the axis this way, that you just only have
315 degrees taped with duct tape and 45 degrees of the axix shaft are visible.
Then when the wire there touches the axis, it will only
make contact during the 45 degrees and this gives the drivemagnet
a spin and during the rest of the 315 degrees its mass moment will continue
to spin...
So you only pulse the drive coil for 45 degrees of rotation and the rest
of the 315 degrees it is not energized.
This way you will get a spinning axis and thus it will speed
up and produce much more power output.

Hope you can try this soon David and report back.
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

[hartiberlin]

Hi David,
you need only one  switch to do the rotation,
like this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kImw20rglNo

Have a look, how he turns his switch on with his
camshaft for about 90 degrees only.
Then the magnet inside the coil rotates and  the
inertia momemtum lets it rotate further through the whole
rotation.

[wattsup]

@Stefan

The whole point of HGs' device is that it does not need to turn or rotate. As soon as those generator magnets would go vertical or pointing up and down (which they do not), there is zero energy being produced because there are no generator coils on the top or bottom so you would be wasting energy to turn the magnets 360 degress. By simply swinging back and forth, the magnets are always in the coil range thus always producing energy in each half motion.

In Newmans device, the magnet always goes through a zero non producing zone when the magnet is full top or full bottom versus HGs that always stays in the energy producing zone. This is probably why he can gets those LEDS to light with such little swing.

To increase power, you would have to develop the same design but increase the swing frequency. This you could probably do by using 4 N/O reed contacts that work right off the drive magnets. This would do away with the micro contacts completly, but this could cause a loss in any sparking effect caused by the micro contacts and thus may be desirable in the system.

[hartiberlin]

Hi Wattsup you are right,
but I still think, the full rotation is a good idea to try
and as you would only energize the drivercoil
for maybe 20 to 45 degrees per rotation that would not take
much energy to run and the advantage would be to use only
one switch to switch the current on to the coil.

Also due to the inertia of the whole axis with the magnets
the speed would not go down so easily and as David said,
the generator magnets do not feel any drag.
So you could also just try to put a heavy flywheel
onto the axis and giveit a spin and see how long the axis will
turn and see the difference in slow down winding time,
onetime with the LED load and another try without the LED load
and open output coils.

[handyguy1]

Hay Stefan:

Glad you understand the electromagnetic driver coil! The driver coil is 15 gauge, 1 to 1.5 LBS. I would go with 1LB and that should be around 140 turns. You might have more favorable results with a heaver gauge wire maybe 12 gauge with 100 turns. The driver coil is single strand. I tried a double wound and the magnetic field was not  good.

I haven't done any serious testing on what happens when the axle is spun in a circle, however, I believe you will create hysteresis. There is a chance that a slow spin would work. Wattsup is right about the no voltage during half the spin. Sandwiching the magnets with a second coil has negative effects. When I get a chance, I try it.

David