Power ratio over one

[handyguy1]

Hay Chad:

That?s great! I will support anyone interested.

I just tried it and the speed did pick up noticeably. I didn?t notice any negative effects. I?m impressed! Great thinking.

I will try taking some measurement this weekend, and will let you know.

This is the kind of spinoff I was hoping for. There is a great bunch of real thinkers on this site. Don?t copy what I have, just use the basic principles. As a group, I know we can come up with the ultimate device.

Some of the ideas from Gary, Stefan, wattsup, and others are good ones. The fact that everyone shares his or her ideas is great.

David Middleton

Chad: I just tried it again, with a magnet on both sides about 10? away, WOW, I am impressed, and the LEDs did in fact shine brighter! Way to go! It?s hard to tell what the effect ultimately is but I?ll definitely let you know!
Great Job!

[Chad]

@David

well im glad your getting similar results to me with the magnets near the output coil!.
Im going to build a larger device using some ring magnets i have....i know these will
be harder to rock back and forth but if i have a return spring on the teeter paddle or
two springs either end then i could just pulse the input coil at the right moment and
With the shape of the magnets or if i offset them i should be able to create a energy
sparing pendulem effect!, or in time as the devices get big enough to do usefull work you
could probabley just base the device around a pendulem and just pulse the input coil every
2-3 oscilations or so....lol im getting ahead of myself now

I think you have come up with a great idea with this device and as you say with a collection
of great thinkers we can make leaps and bounds in the refining of your device.

I like the idea of reed style switches to trigger the input pulse...il have to implement these
in my scaled up version.

il keep you posted on my progress!.

Chad.

[wattsup]

@HG

Regarding your 6 magnets as being 4" x 1" x 1/2" NdFeB grade N40,Neodymium magnets, I went on the magnet4less.com web site and cannot find this model. There are two with those dimensions but they say they are N42 and N50.

NB077
4" x 1" x 1/2" Thick Grade N42, Rare Earth Neodymium Block Magnet
pulling force: 110 lbs
Magnetized through thickness 1/2"
Price: $8.50 -- $10.40

NB077-1
4" x 1" x 1/2" Thick Grade N50, Rare Earth Neodymium Block Magnet
Nickel-Copper-Nickel 3-Layer Coated
Pull force: 126 lbs
Price: $12.99 -- $15.62

The N50 model does not mention the magnetized direction. The N42 model is probably the one you are using since it is magnetized through the 1/2" thickness..

Please advise if it is N42 and maybe correct your build spec on this thread. You can just go to that particular post and click on the "modify" icon.

I will order some magnets and while I wait for them to arrive, I will do some reed contact tests.

Added:

About your micro contacts, are these two or three terminal per micro contact. Do they have both NC and NO terminals or are they either NC or NO. I think with this information I can make a quick wiring diagram.

[handyguy1]

Hay Wattsup:
I had to special order the magnets I have. The site has changed considerably since I was last there. Mine are 79# pull. The 110# pull magnets should give even better results. The 110# pull magnets are getting into the scary realm! Some friends have stopped by, and of course they had to play with them despite my warnings, and would ultimately get them stuck together. The only way I could get them apart is to place one magnet on the edge of the bench and push the overhanging magnet down with my palm.
The cherry 51 micro switches have 3 terminals. That would be great if you did a schematic. I have no artistic skills whatsoever!
David

[handyguy1]

Hay Chad:
This test is down and dirty but gives an approxamation. I'll have to run the full test to see whats happening.

The first test is without the additional magnets, the second is with

UNITS   Volt   Volt   Volt   Volt
CHANNEL #--------   1.0000   2.0000   3.0000   4.0000
# OF POINTS------   1135.0000   1135.0000   1135.0000   1135.0000
MEAN--------------   0.0386   0.8776   0.0018   44.5580
STD DEVIATION---   0.0187   0.2613   0.0017   14.9230
MINIMUM----------   0.0000   0.0222   0.0000   0.2969
MEDIAN------------   0.0340   1.0049   0.0011   52.2340
MAXIMUM---------   0.0914   1.9998   0.0084   59.6090
RMS-----------------   0.0429   0.9157   0.0025   46.9880
SUM-----------------   43.8080   996.1200   2.0773   50573.0000
SUM OF SQUARES-   2.0859   951.6400   0.0069   2506000.0000
VARIANCE---------   0.0003   0.0683   0.0000   222.7000
SKEWNESS---------   0.7396   -1.4611   1.2351   -1.5432
SLOPE---------------   0.0001   0.0009   0.0000   0.0283
AREA----------------   0.7301   16.6020   0.0346   842.8800
START POINT TBF-   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000
END POINT TBF---   18.9000   18.9000   18.9000   18.9000
FILE-----------------   teeest.WDQ   teeest.WDQ   teeest.WDQ   teeest.WDQ
            
---------------------   0.8574   0.9157   0.0495   46.9880
---------------------   ------------   0.7851   ------------   2.3252  VA
---------------------   ------------   ------------   ------------   2.9616 Power ratio
            
            
            
UNITS---------------   Volt   Volt   Volt   Volt
CHANNEL #--------   1.0000   2.0000   3.0000   4.0000
# OF POINTS-------   1135.0000   1135.0000   1135.0000   1135.0000
MEAN---------------   0.0383   0.9189   0.0018   45.0850
STD DEVIATION---   0.0187   0.2593   0.0017   13.8290
MINIMUM----------   0.0000   0.0056   0.0000   0.5859
MEDIAN------------   0.0355   1.0239   0.0011   51.3520
MAXIMUM---------   0.0891   1.4739   0.0074   61.6020
RMS-----------------   0.0426   0.9547   0.0025   47.1570
SUM-----------------   43.4480   1042.9000   2.0992   51172.0000
SUM OF SQUARES-   2.0586   1034.5000   0.0071   2524000.0000
VARIANCE---------   0.0003   0.0672   0.0000   191.2500
SKEWNESS---------   0.4480   -1.2157   1.3377   -1.3593
SLOPE---------------   0.0001   0.0001   0.0000   0.0263
AREA---------------   0.7241   17.3820   0.0350   852.8700
START POINT TBF-   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000
END POINT TBF---   18.9000   18.9000   18.9000   18.9000
FILE-----------------   tteeest.WDQ   tteeest.WDQ   tteeest.WDQ   tteeest.WDQ
            
---------------------   0.8518   0.9547   0.0500   47.1570
---------------------   ------------   0.8132   ------------   2.3585  VA
---------------------   -----------   ------------   ------------   2.9004 Power ratio