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Overunity Machines Forum



Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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blue_energy

Quote@ blue_

Thanks for the magnet links last night!

I have now ordered my N35 magnets.  Now I will be able to test with boths strengths.  I just have a funny feeling that the N35 is what is needed, and what was used. 

It is obvious from Al's information that this is all about fine tuning, so perhaps with the N35, I can tune to the effect.     They will be arriving next week.

Cheers,

Bruce 

You're welcome, Bruce!  A small thing on my part.  Thanks for doing the actual work.  I hope it does the trick!

I wish we knew for sure exactly how long they were in Al's model.  What I recall someone who seemed to think they knew whereof they writ wrote is that they were a little over a half an inch and probably N35.

When I watch Al's and Clanzer's videos, I think that I notice that the length of time that Al's rotor and stator are solidly locked on each 180 degree travel of the stator at push speeds is longer than Clanzer's original replication.  That might be consistant with Al's rotor mags being slightly longer than a half inch.  Clanzer's new mags are N35 and 13mm long - which is slightly longer than a half inch.  So, "we're" ultimately covering the potential ground by semi-blindly trying all the possibilities. 

Of course, if Al would just measure the damn thing and tell us that would eliminate a lot of magnet sales.  I suppose, at the same time, I feel for the guy.  On a smaller scale, I recall the pressure I felt when a horde of people I had never even met were waiting for me to finish the piece of an internet project that had to precede all of theirs.  People who are actually doing nothing can get so excited and demanding because they have become invested emotionally in something that they are powerless to actually make progress in themselves.

But, in Al's case, in addition to all the positive exasperation, there's the entire (largish) crowd whose only emotional involvement is in it's failure - and berating those who make the effort, who are fool enough to even dream beyond the edge of the box (most especially Al).  It is as if Al has made an OU claim himself - which he wisely has not.  But, I've read many posts which suggest that even in not making a claim - he's subtly making one.  That, if he was not making a false claim, he would have used clearer plastic, would have used better light for his video, would have run the video for 7 hours, etc.  Al has been put in a position to be asked to defend himself from those who make claims in his name - and then condemn him for them.  And, to make it all worse, what his model seems to be showing him goes against his own belief in the laws of thermodynamics.  There's not enough hours in the day to pursue something like that - but, in addition, Al has a job with deadlines he is responsible for too and is supposed to come first.  The combination of all of that is enough to rattle ones wits, I'll bet.

Rosphere

Quote from: Rosphere on January 17, 2008, 09:43:50 PM
Good evening, OC MPMM replicators.

Has anyone, (with an 8 magnet rotor,) tried placing the 2 GW stators at exactly 45 degrees on both sides of the AGW stator?

I am thinking that the two adjacent GW stators will help keep the AGW stator in sync with the rotor bacause, although the GW stators are GW to the rotor, they are also GW to the AGW stator.  Think about it.

If you had 12 rotor magnets then you would have the GW stators only 30 degrees apart from the AGW stator; 16 stators = 22.5 degrees.  Basically, divide 360 degrees by an even number of rotor magnets and you get your separation angle.

Has anyone tried this yet; isn't this why you guys drilled and milled out all of those extra holes and slots?  8)


This example uses 10 rotor magnets.  Each sketch below is 9 degrees of rotor rotation.

Baseline configuration is 36 degrees between stators.  This can be reduced by one degree at a time on one or both sides to experiment with squeezing, stretching, or skewing this relationship.

magnetman12003

Hi All,

Has anyone tryed this motor setup using only one stator and a variable air source to spin the rotor to a hi rpm? Thats to see if magnetic latching takes place at various rpms while the rotor is spinning up.

Then if that fails --Reposition the stator either closer or further away from the rotor and repeat the same thing.

Something should occur as we have taken out two variables ( the other two stators).

Remember in the original movie clip the rotor kept spinning after two stators were stopped and the rotor accelerated even more.

It strikes me if everyone trys this simple test with their particular setup someone should make it happen.  If replication attempts are not able to do this then this motor idea should be given the hoax of the year award.

Tom

vipond50

Hi Tom
I have manage tonight to get 2 of the stator Mag's to sycn up, when this happen the rotation input energy(my hand) gets a lot easier and it seems to try to run, but that dirty old bugger "drag" slowly takes it toll. Going to work on the drag aspect to see if i can reduce it.

Bill

magnetman12003

Hi Bill,

I am getting ready right now to place my stators in position.

If I picked a certain hole to start in (out of the 13 holes) drilled in the base of the original drawing which hole do you have your other stator in?  Thats both stators giving you the best results.  I would like to start there and worry about the last stator location later.  I believe I have the answer to drag but I have to test it out.

Count holes clockwise 1 to 13.

Tom