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Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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Omnibus

@Funkyjive,

Your speculation based on Lorentz transformations (not on special relativity?special relativity cannot derive the Lorentz transformations your speculation is based on) is untenable. In this experiment the observation is carried out in the stationary system where both lengths and time are proper. I won?t go here in further explanations as to why also the speculations for time-dilation you are inferring, resulting from the Lorentz transformations, are also non-physical.

DA

@Omnibus response to Funkyjive

"Your speculation based on Lorentz transformations (not on special relativity?special relativity cannot derive the Lorentz transformations your speculation is based on) is untenable. In this experiment the observation is carried out in the stationary system where both lengths and time are proper. I won?t go here in further explanations as to why also the speculations for time-dilation you are inferring, resulting from the Lorentz transformations, are also non-physical. "

God, you are indeed briliant, Omnibus!  I never would have thought of that!

FunkyJive

Hi Omnibus.

Thanks for your interest, though I was only looking at the Lorentz effect in realtime - given that any damping effect appears to be merely lossy in this application.

In my previous post I was separately speculating upon whether shifts in the time domain could potentially explain OU - if indeed such were proven possible.

Nevertheless, I guess that we all have to open ourselves up to criticism in speculating on the possible cause and effects that we currently know little about. As long as it remains contributory however then I'm all for that  ;)

Funkyjive.
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Omnibus

@Funkyjive,

I don't mean to stop you from speculating and thinking about these matters the way @alsetalonkin is trying to stop everybody else but himself from thinking on the theoretical issues concerning this (as I said before, on top of that I've found out he's not quite versed in the subtleties of science, unfortunately). When there are flaws, however, in these speculations (no one's thinking is perfect, including mine, of course) these flaws should be pointed out sooner to avoid spending additional time on futile pursuits. As for the principle of conservation of energy (CoE), it has already been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, through a rigorous analysis of an experiment, that CoE can be violated and energy can be produced out of nothing (the term for that in this forum is 'overunity'--thus, 'overunity' is already a scientifically proven phenomenon).

rotorhead

Quote from: Omnibus on January 06, 2008, 09:48:41 PM
@Funkyjive,

I don't mean to stop you from speculating and thinking about these matters the way @alsetalonkin is trying to stop everybody else but himself from thinking on the theoretical issues concerning this
Yes Omnibus. That's why he provided information about all the materials and dimensions and testing techniques so everyone could reproduce and test it themselves.
(as I said before, on top of that I've found out he's not quite versed in the subtleties of science, unfortunately).
And that's why he was the only engineer that saw any promise in an original idea that nobody else would even look at for over 2 months.
When there are flaws, however, in these speculations (no one's thinking is perfect, including mine, of course)
No shit!
these flaws should be pointed out sooner to avoid spending additional time on futile pursuits. As for the principle of conservation of energy (CoE), it has already been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, through a rigorous analysis of an experiment, that CoE can be violated and energy can be produced out of nothing (the term for that in this forum is 'overunity'--thus, 'overunity' is already a scientifically proven phenomenon).
And, as always, every forum topic always degenerates into SMOT.