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Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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Bruce_TPU

#1625
January 23, 2008, 08:41:53 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on January 23, 2008, 07:24:26 PM
@btentzer,

I ordered both N38 and N35 but am still waiting for them to arrive. The observation you present is very interesting. We should really try to keep the parameters as in the original.

On another note, do you know who made this simulation. If I remember correctly you posted it at one time: http://www.geocities.com/deasyart/steorn/OC_sim_one_stator_a.JPG What I'm curious is what is the stator to rotor field strength ratio used and at what ratio the effect ceases to appear.

Sorry, I can not remember.  I saw it on one of the many Steorn threads about the OCAL Motor.

Quote from: Omnibus on January 23, 2008, 08:30:30 PM
@btentzer,

Can you measure the separation between NN as well as SS. There's a difference with mine. Recall also the data I posted several pages back, the kgauss weren't the same on both poles.

I am not sure the "practical" way to do the requested test.  Give me a guide line and I will give it a go in my next spare moments.

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Omnibus

#1626
January 23, 2008, 08:50:16 PM
@btentzer,

Schematically it should be like this:

Measure the separation in this way first

S
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|
|
N
separation to be measured
N
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|
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S

and then this way

N
|
|
|
S
separation to be measured
S
|
|
|
N

With my magnets which are supposedly N42 the first measurement gives something on the order of 27mm while the second measurement gives 33mm for the same pair of magnets.

Bruce_TPU

#1627
January 23, 2008, 09:06:18 PM
Gotcha.  Thanks!

I will post it tomorrow evening.  Right now my paint is drying.  I painted all of the North half's.   ;)

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

georgemay

#1628
January 23, 2008, 10:14:56 PM
Not sure if anyone noticed:

ALSETALOKIN

Can you spell it backwards? :D
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