Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

[FunkyJive]

You mean something like this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=wcy0tedYBMg, That's the most interesting rendition so far of the well known idea we're trying to reproduce. The difference in our case now is that there's someone real who's willing to talk to the replicators to a certain extent.

And, note, the magnets in that video are ceramic and not neos, if we heed Stefan's concern about the degradation of the neos.

Hi Omnibus.

Thanks for the video. The Lego touch makes an amusing statement of cheeky simplicity - though I'll avoid passing judgement on its validity.
However, if such a construction were for real then you could imagine the headlines...

"Boy with Lego set challenges science as we know it" 

The belt arrangement is something akin to what I had in-mind, though reducing frictional losses by requiring just two belts - one between the main rotor and one of the pulleys (this maintaining the correct registration and setting Rotor-Stator gear ratio), with the peripheral belt simply to keep any number of stators in sync.

Perhaps easier to build from available off-the-shelf parts, though probably too lossy still 

I hadn't seen Stefan's comments regarding neo magnets and possibility of degradation, though I'd guess the electrically conductive nature of neo's (as opposed to ceramic) could also have some small impact due to dynamically shifting field patterns about the magnets - as per the effect induced by the dampers.


FunkyJive

[Omnibus]

@FunkyJive,

The biggest problem, mostly psychological in terms of violation of CoE, is the fact that so far there has been no independent verification of any claim, not only the Lego motor claim, for such devices, except for SMOT. This time, as I said, the situation is slightly different because the person making such claim didn?t disappear as soon as he made the claim (as, for instance, the Lego person did) and is somewhat cooperative. What the outcome of the replication effort will be is only for time to tell.

As for Stefan?s concern, take a look here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3871.msg72826.html#msg72826. I?ll be doing some experiments today or tomorrow to see if there is any difference between the neo magnets I?ve already worked with in @alsetalokin?s device and the virgin ones I just got and will report data. However, even if there is degradation of the neos due to electrical conductivity this project is worth pursuing further (with non-conductive magnets) should we see the acceleration claimed.

[Mr.Entropy]

How many replicators have been careful to use ferromagnetic bearings and to put them right up close to the stator magnet like Al did?  I've been thinking recently that the magnetization of the stator bearing, and especially its saturation, may be very important to the effect, since all the other ferromagnetic materials involved are very hard.

Cheers,

Mr. Entropy

[FunkyJive]

Thanks Omnibus.

Incidentally it was one of Stefan's posts that originally caught my attentions for this forum, and I agree wholeheartedly with both the psychological battles and the need to lend support to others endeavouring to replicate ones ideas so that they can be independently verified.

I'm currently awaiting some diametrically magnetised neo's that were conveniently available from a vendor in the US (mentioned earlier in this forum topic), as I have designs on a system of my own - with parts courtesy of eBay and ex-Russian military stock    My RC helicopter parts will provide the hardware and bearings for early test purposes, which also suits me as I have precious little time available to construct anything too complex due to other new-science projects.

If I can produce something that's both mechanically simple and works then it's my intention that others should be able to replicate it easily from off-the-shelf parts where possible, and I'll certainly be around to support it with material lists and advice - though still just a theoretical model until I've built and tried it.

I'm truly looking forward to such a time that someone is able to get one of these magnetic motors working, and I look forward to your findings with much interest.


All the best,

FunkyJive

[jox]

Mr Entropy I'd been thinking  on exactly the same lines, I drew the drawing below of a polarized bearing, with the intention of animating/analysing it but my graphics skills don't stretch that far, but worth consideration.
Jox