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Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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Bruce_TPU

#1885
January 29, 2008, 09:31:32 PM
Hello Bill,

Thank you very much for the information.  We are still trying to get our correct size rotors. 

I would be interested in seeing your pictures.  Also of your bearing assembly in the base. 

And the carved out underbelly of your rotor.

Thank you! 

@ All

Has anyone heard any more from Clanzer?

And from Bill's information, once again we see the importance of following the details.  In other words, the weight of the rotor matters!!  So we need to carve out some of the underbelly to match weight, it would seem. 

I will weigh my new rotor when it arrives.

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Omnibus

#1886
January 29, 2008, 09:46:46 PM
@All,

Here are some rough data for the magnetic induction at 5mm distance from my rotor (in absence of stators) and stators (each stator in absence of the rest of the stators and the rotor). The hall sensor was positioned at the bottom of rotor magnets and flush with the top plane of the stators.  Although I positioned the sensor immovably with respect to the rotating rotor and stator, I was incrementing the angles by hand. Although much more precise measurements have to be made, especially with regard to the exact angles of measurement one can see at least that the magnetic induction of the stators is almost a magnitude greater than that of the rotor. Qualitatively that's exactly what's required. We, however, need to know the exact data taken as in this example so that we can make quantitative comparisons with the original.

Forgot to mention, all magnets are said to be N42. By the end of the week I'll probably be able to report similar results with the N38 and N35 magnets.

Omnibus

#1887
January 29, 2008, 09:59:29 PM
I should add also that the 5mm distance I mentioned is from the sensor to the outside cylindrical surface of both rotor and stators. Therefore, the probe is closer to the surface of the stator magnets than to the surface of rotor. That was the distance @alsetalokin emphasized on. Later in the week I'll carry out measurements with the probe equidistant from the surfaces of the magnets themselves.

vipond50

#1888
January 29, 2008, 10:12:23 PM
Ok, Here's a few Pics (8) Should give a pretty good idea.
BTW this is all backup with Cad other than a few recent changes.

Bill
Pictures removed because they did not follow the original Specification, what ever that is ? :'(/

B.

vipond50

#1889
January 29, 2008, 10:19:21 PM
Quote from: Bruce_TPU on January 29, 2008, 09:31:32 PM
Hello Bill,

Thank you very much for the information.  We are still trying to get our correct size rotors. 

I would be interested in seeing your pictures.  Also of your bearing assembly in the base. 

And the carved out underbelly of your rotor.

Thank you! 

@ All

Has anyone heard any more from Clanzer?

And from Bill's information, once again we see the importance of following the details.  In other words, the weight of the rotor matters!!  So we need to carve out some of the underbelly to match weight, it would seem. 

I will weigh my new rotor when it arrives.

Cheers,

Bruce
O yeah Bruce
i for got to metion that the ABEC - 5 bearing really made a difference to the Stator's stability, shouldbeable to handle the job with a single bearing. Glad U went with the ABEC-7's, should be that much better.

BTW: the ABEC -1 are junk for this application.

@ Omni & All
Go with at least a grade 5 or better yet a Grade 7 bearing when U deside to upgrade your bearings.

Regards
Bill
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