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Overunity Machines Forum



Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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cub3

Quote from: Omnibus on January 31, 2008, 10:57:17 PM
The more I'm looking at my rig the more the old problem seems to be popping up--as many have already said, the weights, especially the rotor weight may be the crucial factor, now that we have the proper magnets (I hope so). Not so much the bearings but the weights and the interplay of the fields due to the mutual disposition of the magnets. But then, again, why didn't @Craigy and @CLaNZeR get positive results with their seemingly lighter rotors. Could it be they were too light? Anybody know what their rotors' exact weight was?

One tends to think that a flywheel effect should be utilized but the flywheel may be just too heavy and won't allow the effect itself to emerge.

ALL,
As previously mentioned.

This place needs a database (spreadsheet of Al's. / and everyones initial & subsequent dimensional & constructional modifications, with a time line showing further changes, results etc. Most important.

Regards
Den

vipond50

Quote from: cub3 on January 31, 2008, 11:43:00 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on January 31, 2008, 10:57:17 PM
The more I'm looking at my rig the more the old problem seems to be popping up--as many have already said, the weights, especially the rotor weight may be the crucial factor, now that we have the proper magnets (I hope so). Not so much the bearings but the weights and the interplay of the fields due to the mutual disposition of the magnets. But then, again, why didn't @Craigy and @CLaNZeR get positive results with their seemingly lighter rotors. Could it be they were too light? Anybody know what their rotors' exact weight was?

One tends to think that a flywheel effect should be utilized but the flywheel may be just too heavy and won't allow the effect itself to emerge.

ALL,
As previously mentioned.

This place needs a database (spreadsheet of Al's. / and everyones initial & subsequent dimensional & constructional modifications, with a time line showing further changes, results etc. Most important.

Regards
Den

Hi Den
Well your idea  ;D, which is good , put it together and i am sure others will add or make available the data.

Cheers
B.

PolyMatrix

Check the shadow of the main rotor in @Al's video. the rotor is not in the exact centre. You can compare the shadow distance with the static bits around the outside of the main rotor.

Edit. also looking at the shadow of the centre of the main rotor in the strobed video the same effect can be seen, however would perfer it if someone with better picture analysis would confirm this observation.

cub3

Quote from: vipond50 on February 01, 2008, 12:10:58 AM
Quote from: cub3 on January 31, 2008, 11:43:00 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on January 31, 2008, 10:57:17 PM
The more I'm looking at my rig the more the old problem seems to be popping up--as many have already said, the weights, especially the rotor weight may be the crucial factor, now that we have the proper magnets (I hope so). Not so much the bearings but the weights and the interplay of the fields due to the mutual disposition of the magnets. But then, again, why didn't @Craigy and @CLaNZeR get positive results with their seemingly lighter rotors. Could it be they were too light? Anybody know what their rotors' exact weight was?

One tends to think that a flywheel effect should be utilized but the flywheel may be just too heavy and won't allow the effect itself to emerge.

ALL,
As previously mentioned.

This place needs a database (spreadsheet of Al's. / and everyones initial & subsequent dimensional & constructional modifications, with a time line showing further changes, results etc. Most important.

Regards
Den

Hi Den
Well your ideaÃ,  ;D, which is good , put it together and i am sure others will add or make available the data.

Cheers
B.

Of course it is good it should have been implemented at the very start of any replicationor any serious attempt to produce anything.

I am glad you finally see the value, that this will have to this site. Perhaps others will also.

It is not my place to do so, it is the very basics of engineering and science, for THOSE participating to record so that they may reproduce. Am I wrong?

Regards

Den

Bruce_TPU

Quote from: PolyMatrix on February 01, 2008, 01:52:47 AM
Check the shadow of the main rotor in @Al's video. the rotor is not in the exact centre. You can compare the shadow distance with the static bits around the outside of the main rotor.

Edit. also looking at the shadow of the centre of the main rotor in the strobed video the same effect can be seen, however would perfer it if someone with better picture analysis would confirm this observation.

Hmm....

That is interesting.  Can anyone else confirm or deny this?
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.