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Overunity Machines Forum



Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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Yadaraf

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on February 02, 2008, 05:05:34 AM
Quote from: RunningBare on February 01, 2008, 08:23:27 AM
Fingers crossed guys and gals


http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=60180&page=2#Item_5
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Turbinator wrote:

Without going into too much detail, I had a sustained rotor yesterday evening while fooling around around with the stators; The stators were not rotating but oscillating slightly (and with a rod mag attached to each stator - like i said i was tinkering!), the rotor was hand spooled and left to run down while i was doing something else..... strangely it held at around 300rpm. I will investigate further and keep a camera handy.


I tried the above experiment tonight with my wrong sized rotor.  9 mm distance from stator to rotor edge.  Rotor 3/8" shorter than Jason's Cad drawing.

Did the above test.  About 5 hours worth.  I am waiting for a tach to arrive to confirm.  I saw and heard the rotor accelerate almost every time.  Sometimes for about 2 seconds, sometimes longer.  Different configs gave me different results.  Sometimes very long steady runs but no acceleration and sometimes accelerations.  The first time it happened, I yelled.  It scared me and I scared the wife!  LOL  It sounds like a little turbine.  The mags shake first, and it feels like a pulse in the fingers holding the stators.  And then you hear the reving sound for a couple of seconds and then it drops out.

Some runs caught two and three accelerations, at different RPM's, but that does not always happen, just random.

The rotor LOVE'S to see North and south looking at it at the same time.  I had some wild configurations.  And had Jason on the phone for hours.  Rotor Magnets are N35's.  Stator mags per spec.  Cylinder mags on top of stators are N42's.

Experiment with what you have.  Make sure your rotor mags are weaker.  Hold the stator between the dampers and the one on the left.  You can try all three once you get the hang of it.  Spin the rotor clockwise very fast and off you go.  You will know when "it" catches (what ever it is!)   ;D

Cylinder mags on Stator can face any way, as long as North or South are looking directly to the center rotor.

Have fun.  I did.  I will post a video when I find a friend with a vid camera, so be patient please.  Nothing self sustained, though I did get some mighty long runs. 

All of you naysayers are doomed!  LOL

Cheers all,

Bruce


Bruce,

Mega KUDOS!   ::)

Cheers,

Yada ..
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Grimer

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on February 02, 2008, 05:05:34 AM
...  Make sure your rotor mags are weaker. 

I think that is an important point. In effect the Stator magnets are the H field and the Rotor magnets the B field. AGW is an indication that there is a B power loop being generated from environmental H field.

And congratulations. You are right to be confident.
Who is she that cometh forth as the morning rising  -  Fair as the moon. Bright as the sun  -  Terrible as an army set in battle array.

vipond50

@ Bruce
Sounds like your having a blast..... Kewl

I took the sacrificial Rotor why down in mass (247.4 Grams loaded). Think I went to much, so going to work up another one later today and try to hold the Mass to 258 Grams loaded.
Keep having fun and I hope U have a run away  ;D

Regards
Bill :P

hdeasy

@Bruce_TPU

Excellent! Keep us posted and dying to see the video. I agree it should be the rotor magnets that are weaker so they have some movement on the BH plot. I and some other simulators are seeing KE gain with this BH alone AND moving AGW stator. BH + static stator gives no gain. Lag doesn't seem important - it's all about the BH movement: ideally linear and in first quadrant.

CLaNZeR

Nice one Bruce.

I think it is obvious to people building the rigs that there is indeed a weird effect going on here and also that people that have built their Rigs as close as they can to AL's original are not finding instant sucess.
So as Bruce has shown it is defo worth playing with different configs as you will learn and get a feel for the AGW latch and how it works.

Must admit I had more success using those cheap Stator Magnets and if I get time may drag that Rig back out and have a play.

For now I am working away during the week again and very limited time at the weekend to play, but my main concern to me at the moment is the 1/2 bearings I am using are way too tight and it is a struggle to get the AGW compared to when I was using the really loose 3mm RC bearings.

A couple of guys over at my forums are using 1/2 bearings from Fishing reels, so today I am going to try and get some from a fishing shop.

Still want to get the Wind Down times done with the new Dampners but feel I will be wasting my time if the bearings are crap.

Good stuff guys and well done.

I am now confused on the Sizes and have been trying to get a definate spec that people are now working with as this seems to have changed over the last week since I have been away.

Hopefully I will get some new stuff up over the weekend.


Cheers

Sean.
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