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Overunity Machines Forum



Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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Yadaraf

Quote from: Omnibus on February 03, 2008, 11:08:16 PM
@Yadaraf,

So, you took only that portion of my wave where the resonance is occurring and left the rest out, correct? Maybe you can take the initial portions of the other waves I posted here because they are at around 400rpm to see if there would be anything similar to @alsetalokin's characteristic frequencies. Too bad the rotor isn't with me (will be back from the machine shop on Tuesday, I hope) so that I can record it at 425rpm to see if the fingerprints will be the same as in the original.

Also, Bruce has a resonance portion in his wave. Would be interesting to see if it coincides with mine and how it differs from other sections without resonance (say around 425rpm as in the original).

Omni,

You are correct regarding how I sampled your last soundtrack.  I focused on the increasing "noise" that you heard around 230 rpm.  The figure that I attached shows the octave bars as well as "peak" indicators for the bars.  The peaks indicate where the noise was loudest.

If you'd be so kind to post your "400 RPM" wave files for me, I'd be delighted to analyze them like the others.  I live in California, which is GMT-8.

Cheers,  :)

Yada..
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Omnibus

@Yadaraf,

I posted them here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3871.msg75008.html#msg75008.

Unfortunately, the stators themselves (not the N42's on top of them) are somewhat secured to avoid the wiggle when not held by hand. When I get my rotor back from the machine shop on Tuesday (hopefully) I'll record proper waves with stators turning as required.

blue_energy

Quote from: blue_energy on February 03, 2008, 10:43:32 PM
Quote from: FunkyJive on February 03, 2008, 09:27:12 PM
OK good people...

I've just run a couple of Waves processors on the important part of the original video - generally to remove most of the multiband buzz and lift the detail a little. It's only a hi-res MP3 to limit file size from the processed WAV.

Maybe someone has got a little more time that myself to play around with it further, though hopefully will help to serve as a point of general reference. Must get some shut-eye now - work tomorrow and it's 2:25am over here !

http://www.funkyjive.com/Audio/  -  There's only one track - 9.4Mb


Chin chin  :)

FunkyJive

That was a heroic effort, FunkyJive!  I was hoping to use the resulting wav to do the same peak measuring thing I did with Bruce's.  But - it was scrambled too much.  It's too hard for me to tell where the peaks are - too hard to identify the sine within the complex wave.  Thanks for your effort anyway!

If anyone is interested, I took a stab at removing the noise from Als original video's audio as well.  I was fortunate in that there's over a half a second right at the beginning that's pure noise.  So - all of the humming noise is gone from my output now (good ol' Cool Edit Pro '96).  But, like FJ's - what's left has a slightly 'flanged' sound.  Also, even with that - I can't identify any rhythmic signature that I could use to judge when the rotor sped up.  The resulting file is over 4MB - so I can't post it here.  But, if someone can think of a use for it and wants it bad enough to arrange somewhere for me to ftp it to - I'd do that.

I've looked closely at sound files from three different Whipmag rigs now.  I'm really surprised at how smooth Al's is by comparison to the other two.  Is it his rotor bearings?  There's no 'beating' or clatter in the entire soundtrack.  It definitely goes up in pitch though, by the way.

PolyMatrix

Just been looking at @Al's wave file focusing on the moment of latching.ie just before Al says "there it goes". I amplified the wave and heard what I can only describe as a squeak at the moment of latching. I have not been through the whole sound track carefully but after amplifying the whole file the only point I hear this squeak is at the moment of latching.

Speculation: The rotor or the stator axial  is pushed hard against the bearing that for a moment metal rubs against metal.

Yadaraf

Quote from: Omnibus on February 03, 2008, 11:29:24 PM
@Yadaraf,

I posted them here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3871.msg75008.html#msg75008.

Unfortunately, the stators themselves (not the N42's on top of them) are somewhat secured to avoid the wiggle when not held by hand. When I get my rotor back from the machine shop on Tuesday (hopefully) I'll record proper waves with stators turning as required.

Omni,

See attached figures.  Looks like you have something happening around 80 Hz and 300 Hz

Edit:  Analyses were performed on data sampled within the first few seconds of the audio recordings.


Cheers,  :)

Yada..
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