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Overunity Machines Forum



Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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Prophmaji

Quote from: dean_mcgowan on January 10, 2008, 08:15:49 AM
Hi Al,

Is this in effect a protracted smot ramp? basically climbing until it reaches equilibrium? That would explain the acceleration and many other attributes displayed. If you will... imagine a ball moving up a smot ramp with a harness pulling a cog that is turning a gear that rotates the wheel. I may be wrong in so many ways but it just came to mind and I thought I might ask.

Cheers,

Dean


to me, (I've no idea what a smot is) it appears to be a difference in angular velocity, momentum, inertia, etc, with respects to the differences between the smaller mass of the main rotor's magnetic field versus the larger field mass of the smaller magnet-all of that tied to the AC values and their interaction with one another.

I also suspect a slow ramp up to equilibrium. Then it halts.

Then start it again, if the magnets have survived.

I know that what sterling published on his website, that I sent him - seems to contradict the above, but it does not. The two are the same, but with this component mentioned here-left out.

This very consideration was and is one of the main reasons to design and utilize a 'dyno pit'.

Dyno pits are for testing Dyno motors..for runaway acceleration. Which..when the field considerations of the motor are laid out  for maximum efficiency, exactly this situation in the video can happen. And up to and over 100k rpm..as the motor explodes. Violently.

In the case of the given video here, the frictive losses and overall design create a 'slow ramp' situation up to a limit imposed by said losses.

Jut my two cents, only part may be true.

The vortextral balancing act of what an atomic structure is, ie, Oscillating 2-D planar field interactions of 'vortex in-vortex out'..to create the 3-D universe of the given resultant vectors and all the components of this 'world'.....this balanced dual vortex, in equilibrium, requires brute force and/or resonance to break it (gyroscopic equilibrium), but localized attempts at bleeding energy off the 2-d field interaction balancing act, may not be all that fruitful, unless this vortex consideration is understood and taken into account. The vortexes in balance are fed from outside their localized areas, as they exist due to Oscillating 2-D planar field interaction. Which is why it is difficult to get them off balance and why the energy levels observed are so high (how much is released, or how much required to break) when they are cracked into being off balance.

If one fully analyzes all known phenomena, of any kind -real or suspected-  they all fit the Oscillating 2-D planar field model. Up to and including all aspects of multi-dimensionality and all observed psychic phenomena. Do not ignore these two little paragraphs written here. :)

Omnibus

@ebswift,

Don?t plague the thread with your lies. I was the one to leave as seen here: http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=60135&page=1#Item_4 .Obviously, it couldn?t have been possible to post that if I were banned. Also, read carefully who attacked who and who was really calling names. Follow the link @oak and I posted in that Steorn thread. What nerve.

You plague the thread also with stupid suppositions such as this: ?[that I will] claim that [my] theories were right and [I am] vindicated and it couldn't have happened without [me].? While I will always claim that I have already definitively shown through a rigorous argument that CoE can be violated through discontinuous production of excess energy (energy out of nothing) it is really ugly and impudent to suggest that I will claim that constructing a device producing excess energy continuously couldn?t have happened without me. Restrain yourself from such presumptuous statements. Only a fool can suggest what you?ve written.

I would not have posted this if I were not provoked by the above ominous lies and innuendo.

Omnibus

@xume,

To be skeptical when seeing such a demo is one thing but to suggest that hidden small DC motor is the cause for what?s observed is suugesting outright fraud. The best, I think, is to approach this unassuming and do what most of us are trying to do here?replicate the device and see for ourselves whether or not we?ll observe the acceleration demonstrated in the video..

starcruiser

More people trying to disuade us from building a potential operating device. Seems to be a trend when we start to get close to something.
Regards,

Carl

magpower

Quote from: Omnibus on January 10, 2008, 03:26:12 AM
@oak,

That's my impression too. My guess is this has been some kind of a serendipitous coincidence of circumstances plus the error he inadvertently made to turn one of the stators in the "wrong" direction. If the effect (OU) he presents in the video is confirmed this "error" leading to success will remain as one more curiosity in the history of technology. Hope replications run easier this time than what we know usually happens. I will never forget how Torbay couldn't reproduce and couldn't demonstrate his own motor to work when he came to New York. Prior to that I had the assurances of a high Argentinean official whose office has been funding the project that he has seen it work for a long time (months). Recall the most recent replication that went awry--that of @xpenzif. These are very tricky contraptions whereby it's very hard to avoid minute flaws in timing or weights and proportions crucial for them to run as OU. Most of the time the constructors aren't open enough (and even not at all) and thus hurt their cause big time--think of Steorn, Perendev, Lego etc. and the latest, @xpenzif, who didn't even bother to instruct the people trying to replicate it that the cylinder must have 14 diagonal rows and must be placed on an 8-barrier stepper motor.

@ Omnibus
Not to change the topic here but have a question about xpenzif motor. I am confused by what you said here and could if possible draw out something. I did spent allot of time on this and even made a flat track and could not find how this was possible. The flat track did work at some sort but only with helper magnets, this stepper motor thing, was it used to offset the timing on upper rotor.


Back on topic with mine test last night and did not run as is. One note is the mass or weight of rotor is important for the start up. So I recommend not to use light weight rotor. I will re cut mine today I hope. I think Dusty has the best chance right now. More later

Wayne