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Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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RunningBare

Quote from: g4macdad on January 10, 2008, 07:45:01 PM
What makes Omnibus a Zealot? This appears to be free energy. Anyone who would be upset to find out that it is "free energy", has real issues.

Errr, I dont remember calling omnibus a zealot, obsessive maybe but not a zealot, anyway I've said too much off topic already, back to the OCAL.

Omnibus

@g4macdad,

Indeed. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Well, hope you can understand why ...

Bruce_TPU

Quote from: vipond50 on January 10, 2008, 07:44:20 PM
Quote from: btentzer on January 10, 2008, 05:08:18 PM
I ordered my bearings today.  I chose the flanged ones for the center rotor.  A tad more expensive but probably will be worth it.  Add a few drops of oil and they are good to 48,000 rpm's.  I was already speaking with the bearing guy about future upgrades, and once the unit is actually up and running, we hope to replace all of the bearings, first thing, with precision bearings.  Rated rpm's about 100,000.  It simply means less friction. 

But we want to use the same type of everything to start with.  Get it running first, before changing anything!  ;)

Cheers,

Bruce

Bruce
Thanks for putting that post relating to the R3 bearings. I called and spoke to Mike (Nice Gentleman) and ordered the bearings. At the time he had not acquired any info relating to the Flange bearings, so went with the un-flange.
Man i have never waited on parts for a project like this one, Karma ?
I will be ordering again from that company (Mike).

Anyway thanks again
Bill  ;D

Your welcome Bill.  The flanged bearings for the rotor stator only cost about an additional $1.00 each.

My thinking on this, is that it is of importance enough, for me to spend $17.00 USD for new, good bearings.

I also want to make sure that the base, rotor, and magnet stator holders are made out of the exact same material that Al used.  Now, if Clanzer's motor works, and he has used, identical (or so it appears) material for base and rotor, then that will alleviate some static electricity theories.  I just want to take no chance.  If it does work by producing it's own static electricity, it makes no difference to me, because IT WORKS.  LOL

I for one, wonder if he discovered the "Steorn Effect", or something solely new.  It will be interesting to see.  It will also be interesting to see the faces of folks looking at this thing spin without power.  Especially at the University where I work.   ;D ;D 

@ Omnibus
I did not bother to price the precision bearings, but they will not be very expensive.  The bearings are small.  (For Now!!   :D )

EDIT:
I found this great post by Al, from yesterday.  Lots of info and details.

"Every time I have actually seen it stop, it does so by the "dropping out" of the spinning stator. It seems to run at an almost constant rpm until that happens. Spontaneously? Due to some perturbation? They turn off the Jacuzzi upstairs? I don't know.
But I can say that the slow linear decay to zero rpm, isn't the way it seems to behave. Of course I do not have any data at all past about 3 1/2 hours, and I expect it to be able to run for about 1 day 15 hours, or 39 (say 40) hours, thanks to the math models that have been worked out, and based on my conjecture that there may be as much as 17000 Joules available for momentum change, per run.

As for the acceleration when I stop the 2 "idler" stators: I feel certain that this is due to the reduction in drag. It takes energy to rotate each part of the unit, clearly. When the stators are stopped, the energy that was expended in keeping them rotating is now available to the rotor, and it speeds up until again, the power output is equal to all drag and friction sources."
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

vipond50

@btentzer

Yes I totally concur, for the small change involved for this project, why go with used Stuff? I also am repilcating as EXACTLY or as close to Al"s device as I possibly can. When and IF I get the device to motorize I will be headed off to the University Physics lab to run more tests. There I have the nessecary equipment to hopefully obtain the true nature of the operation of the device. But first things first  :D
At this point i do have my ideas on how and why the device is operating, but I will not elaborate until i have data to back it up.
Did Mike have an Idea when he would have the info on the SS bearings?
Rambling
Thx
Bill

tinu

Quote from: g4macdad on January 10, 2008, 07:59:43 PM
Omnibus,
Read my post more carefully. I was saying that you are not a zealot or Pharisee. I have seen you get continuously attacked so the defensive attitude is forgivable.

Omnibus is not being attacked.
He just pretends to have a proof that he simply hasn?t. What he does have is a limited understanding of SMOT and a huge ego. But little science indeed. I?d guess his skills are somewhere around to those of a high-school teacher but not a brilliant one. I?d be curious to know about his real credentials?

Anyway, the story is long and this issue is off-topic here. But if you want to find more, just ask Omnibus politely to show you where is the CoE violation for SMOT ?proved beyond any doubt?. And you?ll see and understand for yourself.

Cheers everyone and sorry for deviating from the topic.
Tinu