Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

[Craigy]

hi guys ,

don?t want to put anyone off , but the acceleration puzzled me, so contacted a phd for his take on the matter, now i still think something is going on , whereas my phd friend now after some thought does not..still can?t agree all the time can we..

I think i know why it accelerates

Think about the effect that ice skaters use to make a fast spin - they start spinning as fast as they can and then fold their arms in - by conservation of angular momentum they then rotate much faster since the net moment of inertia has been reduced just by pulling in their arms. I think this gadget could be doing the same thing - stopping the outside magnets greatly reduces the moment of inertia and so the main rotor has to speed up in consequence in order to still have the same angular momentum.

Hence the question, what happens if you don't stop the outside magnets?

[Mr.Entropy]

I think i know why it accelerates

Think about the effect that ice skaters use to make a fast spin - [...]

To do that you actually have to move rotating stuff from the outside of the rotor to the inside, and that's not happening here.

The angular momentum in the stator magents that are stopped is transferred to the earth via the fingers that stop them.  To get it into the rotor, you would have to transfer it to the rotor via a force.

Cheers,

Mr. Entropy

[robbie47]

I think the driving force is only provided by the one stator magnet that is forced clockwise.
The other 2 (rotating counter clockwise) are 'dragged' by the rotor. This consumes energy. When you stop those 2, less energy loss is occurring.
That is why the rotor is accelerating in my view.

The acceleration at the startup of the motor seems to occur to achieve a balanced state that relates to the mass and the magnet forces of the rotating rotor and the stator(s). This can be simply confirmed by putting more load to the rotor.

[gaby de wilde]

hahaha

but I had already made this (click on the image for the doc) It even explains why the device needs a speed governor to kick start it.

RESONANT MAGNETOMECHANICS


to slow


to fast


within resonance


A bit like xpenzif in his last posts before he made that video.

Yeah. You're right. Your device is flawless. You solved the elusive alternative fuel source. You saved the world. Good work gaby de wilde. Build it so we can all benefit.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3305.0.html

HAHAHAHAHA

Maybe everything in my journal is for real? o dear?

http://magnetmotor.go-here.nl/text

Back on topic....

Don't say? I haven't explained it well enough again? Illustrations and a doc, I knwo I know ...it's not good enough. I must explain it at least 100 times.

Here is nr 3, hold you head!

We take 2 magnets. A and B

We attach a weight to A.

In the first test we drop A so that the attraction from B intercepts the drop.

We repeat the test dropping A from increasing height.

Eventually A moves to fast for B to grasp it out of the sky.

We will call this "above critical speed". There where B is capable of interception the speed of A is "below critical speed".

Below crit. -> attraction overcomes kinetic energy

Above crit. -> attraction does not overcome kinetic energy

Now here it becomes tricky boys and girls.

Before deceleration A is first accelerated by B So, the speed of A can be slightly below crit. and accelerate above it during the interaction.

Nothing weird happens.

Now we attach a rope and a weight to magnet B and throw it over a beam so that we can drop it upwards. Here things get weird!

Apparently, accelerating magnet A from just below crit to just above it costs more energy as to accelerate both magnet A and magnet B from just below 1/2 crit. to just above.

If energy is preserved *grin* it seems like we should be getting 2 times as much acceleration at half the speed for our kinetic investment.

This will of course cut off some of the acceleration time. If it moves faster it will cover more distance in less  time, it's what "faster" means. : - )

The joke is that any improvement in acceleration will also cut the departure time.

Speed was already above crit. Faster departure will increase the gap proportionally.

The magnets on the device in the video are not moving linear. The 180 degree turn is like the magnet disappears for 200%.

Moving over this course the duration of the approach & departure interaction is much smaller than having one linearly.

It may enhance the fast departure effect I dunno, it does however generate a lot of interactions really really quickly.

When the resonant speed is approached the governor magnets are no longer necessary.

Tell me where you get vague.

lol

[bourne]

hahaha

but I had already made this

Have you produced a video?

I would love to see it.