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Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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skymovingcloud

Hi all, I'm a newbie on the site, joined up because of this thread, very interesting indeed. My background is in mathematics and software engineering. My take on this is to try and model it with software, but my physics is rusty and not to degree level. So my question is, is anyone else on here aware of others that have tried/started/succeeded in modelling this or something similar? I'm sure it's a massive challenge and probably way out of my league, but ya gotta try. Any links, ideas or references to material would be appreciated.

FunkyJive

Hi Skymovingcloud.

Like yourself I'm a newbie here myself, though as your standard of mathematics is good then I'll see if I can encourage my maths-orientated friend and colleague (educated to lecturing standard) to join up and chip in. At-least he may be able to throw in a few algorithms for your to work on, amongst many others here I'm sure.

Tweak factors set aside, good modelling software would doubtless save hours of experimentation to optimise  ;)

All the best,

Funkyjive
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amigo

Quote from: skymovingcloud on January 06, 2008, 02:06:10 PM
Hi all, I'm a newbie on the site, joined up because of this thread, very interesting indeed. My background is in mathematics and software engineering. My take on this is to try and model it with software, but my physics is rusty and not to degree level. So my question is, is anyone else on here aware of others that have tried/started/succeeded in modelling this or something similar? I'm sure it's a massive challenge and probably way out of my league, but ya gotta try. Any links, ideas or references to material would be appreciated.

Funny you say this because past week or so I have been contemplating about a software system that could do physical simulations of magnetic and dynamic interactions between objects. An idea might be to use an existing rigid body dynamics engine (for example ODE, being Open Source) and retrofit it with a magnetic simulation component so that magnets could be added as various bodies in the simulation.

Then I thought, heck there are already 3D applications that contain rigid body dynamics engines built in (for example 3ds max uses Havok and I'm familiar with 3ds max) so why build something from scratch when these applications already provide a real 3D environment to model objects and give them rigid body properties. A (big) task would be the write a plug-in that would simulate magnets and their interactions with other objects. Ideally a simulation with visualization of magnetic lines would be an ultimate goal here.

Of course this is all theoretical for now since I neither have the time nor adequate knowledge to undertake either of the tasks...

Dyamios

@skymovingcloud

This is one of the bigger (if not most promising) developments that I've seen here in the past year or so, with the exception of mike's motor which was never successfully replicated.

Seeing as how this motor was just recently disclosed, it will take some time for replications and reports from third parties to become available.

If and when more success reports are disclosed, only then should we put a considerable amount of effort into modeling and discovering what actually causes this apparent physical anomaly. Until then, we can only speculate. After all, it could indeed all be a hoax.

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Asides from that, does anyone really know how the maker(s) of this motor believe it works, or what their basic premise is based upon?

Thanks!

skymovingcloud

Quote from: FunkyJive on January 06, 2008, 02:12:51 PM
Hi Skymovingcloud.

Like yourself I'm a newbie here myself, though as your standard of mathematics is good then I'll see if I can encourage my maths-orientated friend and colleague (educated to lecturing standard) to join up and chip in. At-least he may be able to throw in a few algorithms for your to work on, amongst many others here I'm sure.

Tweak factors set aside, good modelling software would doubtless save hours of experimentation to optimise  ;)

All the best,

Funkyjive

Hi Funkyjive,
sounds great.

Best of luck to the constructors too, looking forward to seeing the results.

Cheers,

Sky