Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

[robbie47]

That is true. However, the difference in strength can be compensated for by adjusting the distance between the stator and rotor. In my setup, I will simply adjust the height of the rotor on the axle to fine tune the distance.

This will only help to compensate for the avarange rotor magnet strength, but not if the 8 rotor magnets have a significant spread in strength.

[FunkyJive]

Prophmaji wrote:

If you head for a DC field/current with the 'loosening/resonant' effect AC field of the correct frequency superimposed upon it, you have your desired overunity.

I personally believe that there could be substance in this - i.e. finding the right "resonance". Such an example would be where if one were attempting to shatter a glass (overcoming the molecular bond that holds it all together), then only the precise pitch or near-harmonic will create sympathetic resonance in the glass, with the minimum of SPL to do so. Not a perfect analogy however, though an appreciably simple one.

The Bedini principle operates on what he terms the "sling-shot" effect with respect to molecules forming the electrolyte of a battery, citing a nominal frequency range of something between 1MHz and 6MHz for a lead-acid battery. At resonance he claims that the battery will effectively charge itself.

Self-charging of a battery would suggest a negative resistance in the battery - where a negative resistor is central to the observations claimed with the Bearden MEG (Motionless Electromagnetic Generator).

And then the Adam's Motor, based upon the back-EMF generated by a coil, where although current reduces and voltage increases (theoretically yielding the same envelope power with a voltage and current trade-off), a fast transient spike would represent the fast edge of a high-frequency waveform.

Perhaps the Adams motor would then suggest similarity with the principles of the Gaussian Gun, where a slow approaching magnet speeds up under EM influence and yielding considerable propulsion to the foremost ball bearing of equivalent material, weight, and size.

Finally, I'll add the known effect of 27GHz where water molecules will separate "easily" into their hydrogen and oxygen constituents - though doesn't really fall within the scope of the home experimenter   


The permanent magnet motor here may not appear to be similar to the above inventions where electronic switching is taking place, but transcending just beyond a point of maximum repulsion between the cylindrical and bar magnets would result in recovery of the field shape considerably faster than the approaching state of repulsion.

Unless magnetic flux (i.e. not just its effects) is comprehensively understood, there appears to be a common theme in the various inventions and their claims, and the ever-present possibility of something we have yet to discover   


FunkyJive

[vipond50]

Since Alsetalokin mentioned that exact distance of the stator magnet to the rotor is quite important, I wonder how important slight differences between the individual rotor magnets strenghts are.
But how to determine the differences in the strength between the used rotor magnets?

And even more to the point: differences between the rated strengths and sizes of the magnets?  Most of the rigs I've read about seem to be using N42 magnets for both stators and rotor whereas, reportedly, Al used N35 magnets for his rotor mags.

blue_energy
Just for the record that was an assumption on Al's part. He was guessing that was the gauss value. It funny being in an R&D lab the magnets could have not been compared to an known mag spec or metered to help tie down the gauss value.
Don't take this as a poke toward Al, he really did a good job reporting, but i feel that he was getting pressured by his boss or somebody relating to this discovery.

Regards
Bill

[ken_nyus]

This will only help to compensate for the avarange rotor magnet strength, but not if the 8 rotor magnets have a significant spread in strength.

Anyone have a good idea for "home" testing of a set of magnets, to make it easy to select a group of magnets that have similar strength?

Something like the method proposed by robbie47 above?

Using robbie47's method I guess you could pick one magnet to always be the bottom magnet, and then pop the rest of your magnets in and check the repulsion distance and see if there is any significant difference? (significant would have to be defined here).

Now how to do this for the ring magnets???

[vipond50]

Since Alsetalokin mentioned that exact distance of the stator magnet to the rotor is quite important, I wonder how important slight differences between the individual rotor magnets strenghts are.
But how to determine the differences in the strength between the used rotor magnets?

And even more to the point: differences between the rated strengths and sizes of the magnets?  Most of the rigs I've read about seem to be using N42 magnets for both stators and rotor whereas, reportedly, Al used N35 magnets for his rotor mags.

blue_energy
Just for the record that was an assumption on Al's part. He was guessing that was the gauss value. It funny being in an R&D lab the magnets could have not been compared to an known mag spec or metered to help tie down the gauss value.
Don't take this as a poke toward Al, he really did a good job reporting, but i feel that he was getting pressured by his boss or somebody relating to this discovery.

Regards
Bill

This is off the Steorn Forum by OC

"Comments re Al's prototype:
1) stator magnets are N42s
2) rotor magnets are unknown but less powerful than N42s according to Al, guess is N35

Hope this helps
Bill