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Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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PolyMatrix

You guys probably know a LOT more than I do about magnetic fields so I hope you don't mind me stating some observations I have made while playing with some magnets, under very primitive circumstances.

1. Compared the point where magnet overcomes the moment of inertia for a screw and a staple. Result both seemed to start at the same distance from the magnet.

2. Attraction of NS poles can supply a turning moment of just over 120degrees.

3. Magnetic fields do not seem to react instantaneously to each other when another magnet is travelling at speed, but this may just be due to friction in the system or the problem of overcoming the moment of inertia of the mass holding a magnetic field.

4. Obviously a very small change at the point where N changes to S starts a 180degree(?) movement in another freely rotating magnet. (? because the attracting poles 'hang on' for as long as they can!)

5. Observation seems to suggest that the acceleration of magnet to magnet or magnet to steel or strong magnet to weak magnet is the same for each of these situations but difficult to confirm.

Have looked to confirm these observations but with no result if someone can post a link showing me any or all these observation are incorrect I would be grateful.

Have a feeling that confirming these experiments and observations may help in tuning the OC-MPMM.

RunningBare

Copied from the Steorn forum.

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He told us he was sure it was not OU, and was due to a 17000 joule source of energy (a double-A battery?). The clues were all there, but we didn't tumble to the joke; instead, people spent time and money building replicas.

In that case, If I were in Al's shoes, I might be too embarrassed to admit the joke at this point.

Two NiMH AA batteries will deliver 18144 joules
http://www.allaboutbatteries.com/Energy-tables.html

Draw your own conclusions

Jdo300

Quote from: canam101 on January 18, 2008, 08:55:25 AM
What? I didn't think anybody had gotten acceleration, just agw lock, which is chickenfeed, apparently.

CLaNZeR got one of his early rigs to accelerate for a moment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9au4O6_QuSs

Also Omnibus reportedly got his setup to accelerate, so it is just a matter of time.

Patience young caterpillar...

God Bless,
Jason O

Bruce_TPU

Quote from: RunningBare on January 18, 2008, 09:33:13 AM
Copied from the Steorn forum.

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He told us he was sure it was not OU, and was due to a 17000 joule source of energy (a double-A battery?). The clues were all there, but we didn't tumble to the joke; instead, people spent time and money building replicas.

In that case, If I were in Al's shoes, I might be too embarrassed to admit the joke at this point.

Two NiMH AA batteries will deliver 18144 joules
http://www.allaboutbatteries.com/Energy-tables.html

Draw your own conclusions

The entire exchange was based on the math of the time it took to decelerate.  The statement in context.  Also, another Steorn Forum member assisted with the math, if I recall.

He has actually encouraged people to replicate, so I do not think that at all.  We have had what, three or four replications, some with positive results, and everyone is ready to shoot the messenger.  Not me.   ;D

Some people are actually trust worthy.  Just because a few could not self sustain, yet, does not make Al a liar.

Cheers,
Bruce

1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

unzapped

Hello all... sorry for not having posted any updates on the purchase of milled parts... I will not be pursuing this design any longer as the original video is most likely a misrepresentation.

I think maybe AL had given up on the designs for OC... but thought maybe some interest might spark further testing and replications... This is just MY opinion and not based on anyone else's.

The very fact that ANYONE would build something like this, and pour pessimism, evading the possibility of OU so vehemently is ridiculous. I would pee my pants as I think most of you would if you could make this thing run like in his video.

He already put up one video, a second better video would be very easy.

Replicators keep on keepin on, but beware you may have nothing more than an interesting toy and a sore finger....

You guys are awesome... for now I will go back to grazing this and many other forums on my search for potential OU.... at least this one got me to register... @ Clanzer, I have registered in your forum... I admire your abilities, and your perseverance in building all these gadgets, I truly believe if anyone can replicate something it would be you.

I'll be watching, but with a more skeptical eye...

-peace out!
UZ