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Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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vipond50

Quote from: MeggerMan on January 19, 2008, 07:32:45 PM
Hi Bill,
Yes I remember you from the Joe Cell days too and I have no problem with you reporting on your results - in fact I still have 3 joe cells in the garage, I noticed some very odd effects with the tests that I carried out.

Anyway, when you had the 1 minute sustained run, were you able to monitor the RPMs ?

From the video you posted earlier it is very apparent that a hand spin of the rotor soon slows to a stop in 15-20 seconds so a sustained run of 1 minute is a big step forward.

@DA,
I have made your suggestion about angled stators to Al, I too had this idea a few pages back.

@Bruce,
Regarding the N35 magnets, I got Al to measure the vertical repulsion distance between two rotor magnets, 1/4" dia x 1/2" rod and he measured it to be 30.5mm which is about what I got with the ones I ordered from S&J magnetics at 31.5mm, if someone has some N38 or N35 rods they could perhaps do the same test and feed back the results.

Regards
Rob


Hi Rob
No Sorry, I did not get a tach reading, I was totally caught off guard this morning after the reassembly. I base this approximation on tach readings with hand spin ups (I don't like guess) the RPM was about 700 to 750.
Sorry for not have my ducks in a row.

Bill

geodan

Quote from: ken_nyus on January 19, 2008, 08:11:40 PM
Quote from: geodan on January 19, 2008, 05:10:17 PM
repost from steorn to my request for a translation...

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@geodanz...
...Implies an asymmetric field for reasons unknown... The "symettry" traces show the uninterfered waveforms, of rotor and stator, but the dual trace shows quite a different trace for "upspin", and "downspin" (als' parlance...)
Intriguing.
Goodwill,
-Dirtfarmer

http://yirkha.fud.cz/steorn/alsetalokin/Dual%20Trace/

If someone could confirm for me please, these are traces of magnetic polarity?

Magnetic polarity represented vertically, and time horizontally?



That's my assumption Ken... but here's a note worthy repost from the Steorn whip motor chat  forum...

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Alset,
What reason in your experience would account for the dual trace results... (They may be expected, I don't know...)
http://yirkha.fud.cz/steorn/alsetalokin/Dual%20Trace/
Accel/decel of the stator? (inducing a varying voltage...) but if that is the case, why the same disparity (in quality, not quantity) upspin and downspin? (accel>rotor>decel) (Even this is considerably conjecture, ... I understand...)
On another , quite different note, Is it possible that one of the coils is in reverse polarity by accident?
Goodwill,
-Dirtfarmer
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"On another , quite different note, Is it possible that one of the coils is in reverse polarity by accident?"

Oh, I thought that was clear from the picture of the probe coil. Sorry! The scope doesn't have a trace inversion switch.
The two coils are connected in series, with the probe grounds on the "center tap" and the probes themselves on the ends. This can best be seen in "symmetry_p1.jpg".
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Oh, and I believe that a couple of folks have shown that the stator does accelerate and decelerate on each cycle, like RB predicted and as you have also postulated.
Goodwill yourself, and to yours as well--
--Al


Omnibus

Quote from: RunningBare on January 19, 2008, 08:15:59 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on January 19, 2008, 07:43:28 PM
Don't be so sure. If he were my employee or a grad student and I knew his current behavior that won't be so and I'm not alone in that.

His current behavior is his own personal business, so long as he does not connect his employers name to this then his employer has no recourse to discipline him.

As I already said, alsetalokin is an anonymous internet persona, I'd say his real life integrity and job are quite intact would'nt you?
Not so. Like I said, if he were my employee or my grad student and behaves the way we've seen him behave that won't be just his personal business. Semi-educated know-it-alls, let alone, dishonest people and cowards have no place in science.

Omnibus

@ken_nyus,

Although I'm more interested in the fine structure of the rpm vs. time curves, something I can't study now for lack of tachometer, qualitatively it seems obvious that the three stators spinning GW are a greater hindrance than one spinning GW and two held in place. The easiest (aside from a lone rotor) is the spin of the rotor when one stator spins AGW and the other two are held in place. How much these observations have any novelty in them remains to be seen.

Prophmaji

Quote from: Omnibus on January 19, 2008, 08:32:50 PM
Quote from: RunningBare on January 19, 2008, 08:15:59 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on January 19, 2008, 07:43:28 PM
Don't be so sure. If he were my employee or a grad student and I knew his current behavior that won't be so and I'm not alone in that.

His current behavior is his own personal business, so long as he does not connect his employers name to this then his employer has no recourse to discipline him.

As I already said, alsetalokin is an anonymous internet persona, I'd say his real life integrity and job are quite intact would'nt you?
Not so. Like I said, if he were my employee or my grad student and behaves the way we've seen him behave that won't be just his personal business. Semi-educated know-it-alls, let alone, dishonest people and cowards have no place in science.

I take it you've never had a spook or a member of the US Defense industry right in your office, now, have you? Had your phone tapped for years at a time? Followed around for weeks and weeks, every day?

I have seen your posts go from the properly defensive, and then to the near downright ignorant.. These last two posts seem to stem from downright ignorance. We are all guilty of it at times. In this case you are now guilty of it.