Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

[Bruce_TPU]

@ All

From the Steorn Forum.

       MeggerMan:
        @Al, one question/test for you, if you stack two of the rotor magnets in a plastic tube in repulsion, what is the gap that seperates them?
        I know the gap from a N42 1/4"x1/2" rod.

        Regards
        Rob


Al:
    I would really like to know the answer to that one also.

Good test.
Almost exactly 3 cm, maybe a rch more, like 3.05 or so.
Of course, density is unknown.

Meggerman:
Hi Al,
Thanks ... 30.5mm sounds very close to the results for a N42:
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m25/kingrs/DSCN5262.jpg

31.5mm by bouncing the magnets and looking at the average.
The tube is Kapton, so its difficult to see through.

Perhaps its N40?
[edit] by adding another 1/4" x 1/4" rod (total = 1/4" dia x 3/4") to the bottom magnet increases this to about 33mm [/edit]

Regards
Rob

Al:
@Rob--maybe, I just don't know. I don't think so though, they certainly don't seem as strong as the 834DIA stators.

(I have highlighted the important points that I see.)

Figure this out and we will have working replications.  IMHO.

Cheers,

Bruce

[vipond50]

@CLaNZeR, @Craigy, @vipond50 and everybody else who has the replica of the motor, could you please check what the strength of your rotor magnets is with respect to the strength of the stator magnets? Also, is the movement of the rotor exhibiting a uniform repetitious patterns (four for a full turn) when you turn it by hand?

Hello
I did a count by hand a found that the stators rotate four(4) rev's/ one(1) rotation of the rotor. Has there been a standard for determining the magnet gauss? Read about various methods, but no standard that everyone can follow to get accurate results when compared.

Need to develop a procedure for this
Thanks
Bill

[Omnibus]

@btentzer,

I think that's crucial to know. As I said my rotor magnets are N42 the same as the stator magnets (these were recommended: part#'s D48 and R834DIA). It appears that the D48 cylinder is stronger than it should be. I found this site where they sell weaker (N38) 1/4" x 1/2" cylinder magnets: http://www.engconcepts.net/List_Of_Cylinder_Magnets.asp. See part# CYL0175. Do you have any other suggestions?

Matching of the magnets is another important thing to do but we'll worry about this later. Let's find out first what these darn magnets are.

[Omnibus]

@CLaNZeR, @Craigy, @vipond50 and everybody else who has the replica of the motor, could you please check what the strength of your rotor magnets is with respect to the strength of the stator magnets? Also, is the movement of the rotor exhibiting a uniform repetitious patterns (four for a full turn) when you turn it by hand?

Hello
I did a count by hand a found that the stators rotate four(4) rev's/ one(1) rotation of the rotor. Has there been a standard for determining the magnet gauss? Read about various methods, but no standard that everyone can follow to get accurate results when compared.

Need to develop a procedure for this
Thanks
Bill

Please try the following--adjust by hand the rotor at one of the larger maximums and let it go. It should skip the next rotor magnet and will bump into the maximum formed by the third. That's the pattern that should be repeated. See if it is indeed repeated four times per full turn.

As for the procedure of measuring just place the probe on the face of the magnet pole and compare the readings with what you'd get by placing the same probe on the same place on the face of a pole of another magnet. That's very rough estimate but will give you some idea.

[Yadaraf]

Concerning Sacred Geometry and the WhipMag

OC's original design called for 13 stator magnets.  AL's device consisted of 8 rotor magnets and 3 stator magnets.

Using Sacred Geometry as a reference, a better system might be achieved using the following:


       8 rotor magnets + 5 stator magnets = 13 TOTAL magnets


I contacted an expert in sacred "systems," and he provided an "8-5-13" inference in the link below.

     http://www.neweaglesforum.proboards107.com/index.cgi?board=news&action=display&thread=1192185297&page=40#1200827437




Cheers,

Yada ...
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