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Overunity Machines Forum



Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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Omnibus

@Esa Maunu,

I agree the contraption we're trying to replicate is based on the same idea as Searl's motor, Lego and many other designs proposed throughout the decades. The principles the magnetic motors are based on are well known despite the seemingly different designs. What remains to be seen is a real demonstrable, reproduced by independent parties such motor. That would be the real contribution in this field. The paper you cite, however, contains highly controversial assertions whose validity isn't at all obvious and has to be studied further. Mere sprinkling of a text with words sounding scientific, although pleasing to the ear of an enthusiast, doesn't accomplish much in sustaining the claims. Unfortunately, studying these effects, even if one may find this necessary, is marginal with respect to the studies at hand which are more or less of a practical nature aiming at reproducing a claimed self-sustaining motor. There are many interesting things worthy of study in science (many scientifically sounding ones not worthy at all) but one has to prioritize them. The good in-depth studies in science are systematic as a rule.

Esa Maunu

Quote from: Omnibus on January 22, 2008, 07:07:58 AM
@Eas Maunu,

I agree the contraption we're trying to replicate is based on the same idea as Searl's motor, Lego and many other designs proposed throughout the decades. The paper you cite, however, contains highly controversial assertions whose validity isn't at all obvious and has to be studied further. Unfortunately, studying these effects is marginal with respect to the studies at hand which are more or less of a practical nature aiming at reproducing a claimed self-sustaining motor. There are many interesting things worthy of study in science but one has to prioritize them. The good in-depth studies in science are systematic as a rule.

@Omnibus,

I just try to give some insight and explanation about the devices possible operational principles. To have a progress, we have to keep our eyes open, and avoid to say only that it does not work, especially without explanation, why.

Esa

Omnibus

@Esa Maunu,

How can the explanations you give turn our non-working machines into working and perform as the video shows? Let's be practical for a change.

Esa Maunu

Quote from: Omnibus on January 22, 2008, 07:37:24 AM
@Esa Maunu,

How can the explanations you give turn our non-working machines into working and perform as the video shows? Let's be practical for a change.

I think you should try to use a off-center rotation, to have an accelerating and therefore radiating charge to form an nested, cylindrical field around the device.

Also i think that this kind of nested, cylindrical field is able to compress the zpe, that has an electrical nature. If you are able to change locally the density of the zpe, it causes an repulsion effect from the mass structures, and makes the system to rotate.

Esa


Esa Maunu

Quote from: Esa Maunu on January 22, 2008, 08:06:05 AM
Quote from: Omnibus on January 22, 2008, 07:37:24 AM
@Esa Maunu,

How can the explanations you give turn our non-working machines into working and perform as the video shows? Let's be practical for a change.

I think you should try to use a off-center rotation, to have an accelerating and therefore radiating charge to form an nested, cylindrical field around the device.

Also i think that this kind of nested, cylindrical field is able to compress the zpe, that has an electrical nature. If you are able to change locally the density of the zpe, it causes an repulsion effect from the mass structures, and makes the system to rotate.

Esa



Perhaps you can also use springs below the device, to allow the device to vibrate and have an accelerating effect. Roschin & Godin device was also build to stand on springs.

Esa