Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

[geodan]

IMHO not a good test, if this device really works, then there is a symbiotic relationship between rotor and stator, each keeping the other in check so to speak, adding motors to them is the same as putting a leash on them, you see, you can spin the motors upto 1250 for rotor and 5000 for stator, but how are you going to get them to sync? its the motors now in control not the rotor and stator.

IMHO RB, there are no bad tests.... if it yields data and results even if negative then it's a good test.

I agree with you, so long as false measurements can be ruled out.

Perhaps one way to reduce this would be to only motorize one at a time, leaving the other free to do its thing.

that's my thinking too... spin up the rotor and let the stator do it's thang...

Another thought is that all that acceleration deceleration of the rotor that we've been hearing about might just be due to slight irregularity of placement of the rotor magnets...

[Omnibus]

What puzzles me in @CLaNZeR's third video is the fact that the stator seems to turn uniformly.  Try to spin the rotor slowly and watch the stators.  Each one has moments of arrest in between spinning, at that not synchronously for the three stators. Probably at high speeds some averaging of the fields occurs which makes the spin of the stator smoother and yet keeping it AGW.

[blue_energy]

@all
It would be interesting to attach 2 electric motors, one on the rotor and one on the stator, then make them run.
For example, the one connected to the rotor running at fixed speed, while the stator at variable speed. By changing the speed of rotation gradually, one could detect when less and less energy is requested to run the engines until finding the correct speeds for the auto-rotation.
This method would replace thousands of manual spins and could lead to a result in minutes.
What do you think? 

The thought has crossed my mind as well.
Crucial thing to do then is to monitor the current drawn by these motors, to see significant change.
However there is a phase relation between rotor and stator.
That's not easy to manage with two independant motors to drive such rigs

To my mind, the best way would be to spin the rotor like Lumen did, (but I would use pulleys, not direct drive) and then keep tweaking the stator / damper variables looking for those sweet spots that lighten the load as you guys mentioned...

Yes, from the latest Alsetalokin video it's clear that the rotor and stator are in AGW lock step with each other.  Apparent out of phase relationships between the magnets don't seem to hinder the effect in the least.  You would arrange for the rotational relationship between the rotor and stator (more or less 1:4) to be constant in the gearing - and then use the video as a guide to position the two in correct sync with each other. 

One thing I wonder about, though, is whether a dynamic timing advancement adjustment would be necessary as the speed increases.  In order for the effect to operate as the video suggests that it does, some sort of magnetic lag between the fields (due to their spinning?) would seem to have to be taking place.  It's too bad that Al didn't take stroboscopic video at more than one speed so that we could see the 'gear' relationship over a range to see if it changes.  (Poor Al.  Somebody is always wishing he had done more...)

[niente]

What puzzles me in @CLaNZeR's third video is the fact that the stator seems to turn uniformly.  Try to spin the rotor slowly and watch the stators.  Each one has moments of arrest in between spinning, at that not synchronously for the three stators. Probably at high speeds some averaging of the fields occurs which makes the spin of the stator smoother and yet keeping it AGW.

This is right, but I think that the lack of irregularities in rotation are due to the momentum gained by both magnets (remember they're running at high speed). The irregular motion effect is visible only when they have almost no momentum (=slow speeds).

[Omnibus]

Poor Al.  Somebody is always wishing he had done more...

I think he's done enough so far for someone who has stumbled by chance on an effect, provided he continues to cooperate so that we can all help in clarifying the conditions for the phenomenon to be reproduced (and not cooperate for a while to wet the appetite and then suddenly disappear as that famous Mike in the Bedini replication thread, if you happen to remember him).