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Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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mikeytown2

#1790
January 25, 2008, 09:45:10 PM
@JFK or anyone else with a good ideas.
Try Google SketchUp http://sketchup.google.com/download.html Or at a minimum draw it out on graph paper. I find it easier to follow if there are pictures to go along with the words.

JFK

#1791
January 25, 2008, 10:50:45 PM
Yes mikeytown2, a picture is worth a thousand words... I am not an artist, but I did find a picture of flyweights used on a model steam engine to regulate the steam pressure.
Instead of regulating steam flow, this would activate a friction brake assembly... the faster it spins the more braking action would be applied.
With the braking action beginning at the "sweet spot" ( the most torque ) of RPM's... wherever that ends up being.
Based on Al's video my guess would be around 850-900 RPM's. ( rotor speed )



What I had pictured was something like this scaled down and mounted directly to the rotor spindle.
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If you wanted to get fancy, you could make these weights out of magnets and put a pickup coil
( with a full wave bridge rectifier and capacitor ) in close proximity to them and drive an LED with that.
That would prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that it is creating an output with no input.  :D

But like I said, that is a thought for the future... let's let the engineers here get an overrev situation perfected first.  ;)

Bruce_TPU

#1792
January 25, 2008, 11:47:52 PM
Hello All,

Well, the good news (for a moment!  LOL)  Was that my machined parts came in.  I put it all together, and started to look for some of the things I had seen on my self built wooden one. 

I notice that my stator magnets simply stuttered as I rev'd up the rotor.  And then I measured the distance from edge of Stator, to edge of rotor.  Distance was 8 mm.  It should be 5 mm.

To make a long story short, they cut Hanks, Jason's and my rotor 3/8" short.  Go figure!   :(

Hank is going to have him recut and resend our proper sized one.

The base is correct, and my stators are great.  N35 magnets.  Bearings for the stators are super precision ABEC 7's.  Very nice feel to them.  Dual rotor bearings, very nice.

Concerned about slippage where the delprin slip over the stator bearing.  But I will wait for new rotor before addressing that. 

So we wait another few days.   ;)

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

0c

#1793
January 26, 2008, 12:03:12 AM
Quote from: evil-doer on January 25, 2008, 08:04:07 PM
Quote from: niente on January 25, 2008, 06:27:20 PM
In attachment the files needed for the 13 stators simulation (not run yet). I calculated the initial orientation of every stator magnet according to the position of the rotor (they're not casual, but in latch... :-) ).
Before running the simulation you can modify the mash to obtain a more precise result.
Good luck!  ;D
i tried running your thing then got several errors after about an hour. couldnt write to file, then couldnt find poly somethingorother.
Ran twice. Failed twice in mo_blockintegral(). Output 766 lines first time, 765 lines the second time. Error message said it couldn't select the area. Checked task manager while running, no shortage of memory or disk space.

crash_uni8

#1794
January 26, 2008, 12:06:33 AM
@Bruce_TPU

i hate to bother you but could you post a picture of one of your stators....or explain how they are put together
ive been having the worst time figuring out how to make them.... :-[
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