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Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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vipond50

#1985
January 31, 2008, 08:20:41 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on January 31, 2008, 08:16:33 PM
@vipond50,

I tried to place the North poles similar to what's in the pic. Otherwise the diameter is slightly off (by 1-2mm) than what in Jason's drawings.
@ Onmi
Excellent, Glad to here that is is close, Helps confirm that the radius relative.

B.

Omnibus

#1986
January 31, 2008, 08:24:48 PM
@magnetman12003,

That's all right, the credit will go to him and to whoever reproduces it. Unless the working device reproduced doesn't follow his specifications.

As for what he says regarding whether or not this is OU that should be ignored altogether. It's not up to him to judge what is and what isn't. I've had prior discussions with him and have determined that his understanding of the subtleties of science is wanting. Let's see the effect shown in the video continuing for 7.5 hours, as claimed, and then see how anybody can deny it's OU.

Bruce_TPU

#1987
January 31, 2008, 08:45:02 PM
Hello All,

I have my 6061 T-6 cut drilled and mounted.  New machined rotor is being worked on today.  I hope to be with Bill and Omni, Jason and Hank if a few short days when rotor arrives.

A few thoughts:
Weight of the rotor matters.  Bill showed this by experimentation and just plain logic dictates it.

AGW lock with the rotor is so unique.  Many thought it could just be slapped together and work.  If that were the case, someone probably already would have seen this effect and had a working unit.

So, we must get our rotor's down to the proper weight.  We must also interchange bearings and stator magnets, looking for a working couple.  But I think rotor weight is the first thing to address.

@ Bill
Thanks for posting the rotor measurements from Clanzer's forum.  I will use them with my new rotor, when it arrives.

Let's take our time, and go step by step.  There is no rush.  Accuracy is needed.

@ Omni
I am glad that you found 30.5 mm separation N38's.  Please post the link from where you purchased them.  Thank you.

Cheers all,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Omnibus

#1988
January 31, 2008, 09:02:53 PM
@Bruce-TPU,

Getting the stator to rotate AGW is no problem at all. Turns out, however, that it's not the solution. @alsetalokin has left the impression that once he made the "mistake" to have the  stator turn AGW, voila, the effect kicked in. Not so.

I'd like to know what the rotor weights of @Craigy's and @CLaNZeR's are. It seemed they had some lighter rotors. I do agree, though, that the rotor weight is a crucial parameter and we have to work on that problem. First, someone has to approach @alsetalokin next week and see if he still can reproduce the effect and if so what the rotor weight is as wel as the magnetic induction profile of the stator and rotor. If he isn't cooperative enough we have to play with various weights and compare notes regarding the magnetic induction profiles.

As for the N38 magnets I got them from http://www.engconcepts.net/List_Of_Cylinder_Magnets.asp. I think they are CYL0175.

vipond50

#1989
January 31, 2008, 09:22:13 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on January 31, 2008, 09:02:53 PM
@Bruce-TPU,

Getting the stator to rotate AGW is no problem at all. Turns out, however, that it's not the solution. @alsetalokin has left the impression that once he made the "mistake" to have the  stator turn AGW, voila, the effect kicked in. Not so.

I'd like to know what the rotor weights of @Craigy's and @CLaNZeR's are. It seemed they had some lighter rotors. I do agree, though, that the rotor weight is a crucial parameter and we have to work on that problem. First, someone has to approach @alsetalokin next week and see if he still can reproduce the effect and if so what the rotor weight is as wel as the magnetic induction profile of the stator and rotor. If he isn't cooperative enough we have to play with various weights and compare notes regarding the magnetic induction profiles.

As for the N38 magnets I got them from http://www.engconcepts.net/List_Of_Cylinder_Magnets.asp. I think they are CYL0175.
Thanks Onmi
I'll order in a batch

B.
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