Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

[plengo]

@Bruce_TPU
hey Bruce, now that you are using the robber bands, is it making the any difference? Based on the JNL website info I think that what is happening is that when the rotor passes the magnets over the stator the effect of "shooting" (as JNL explains) is happening but to be effective for repitability it is necessary that the stator vibrates enough so that the "shooting" goes toward the same direction where the rotor is rotating. Which means that as the rotor magnets approaches the stator both magnets are in synch and when they are front-to-front (perpendicular to each other) the shooting happens BUT if as the shooting happens the stator moves just a bit toward the direction of the rotor it will in effect shoot the rotor even further (as if one is just taping the rotor with a finger).

With the robber bands I would predict that the acceleration effect you perceived should be increased if the resonance of the vibrating stator (without the AGW, in other words, non-rotating stator) is in agreement with the speed of the rotor. Does it make any sence?

I am in the believe that the AGW locking is irrelevant to the whole process.

Fausto.

[vipond50]

@ Fausto
That person was me.  And I have moved to using rubber bands to hold the stators.    

Youtube guys think I am holding a drill in my unseen hand.  LOL  Jeesh I can't win.  No wonder Al got so bummed.

@ JFK
Al never said ceramic bearings.  Al said STAINLESS STEEL.  People assumed ceramic.  And he did not just mean the housing. 

@ Omni
Al had gotten the device to work as we have, with the bearings in the rotor.  He went to the newer setup with the bearings in the base, for greater stability.  It was easier for Jason to design the drawing according to the original Al design.  As Bill mentioned, in the newer design, it was bearing salvaged from an old reel to reel.  Good luck finding that one.

Please try not to let some here confuse.  A lot of talk, making assumptive arguments sound like fact. 

@ All
Has anyone seen this post by Harvey at Steorn:
http://urad.net/forums/WhiPMag/Bearing%20Permutations.xls

Cheers all,
Bruce

Bruce,

Thanks for clearing up the issue concerning Al's two rotors.  In Al's first video then, the red pully must be hiding the retaining nut.

Q:  Should I leave Vipond's pics up or are they confusing the issue?


Cheers,

Yada..
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@Yada

The first Video with the small red Pulley was the second version design. Meaning it was the press on rotor config or the rotor bearing support assembly was mounted to the base plate.

Boy folks need to review the information or take heed to a review before posting. Sorry for the small rant, but this will confuse most of the readers or skimmers of these posts.

Best Regards
Bill

[Yadaraf]

@ Vipond

Thanks for clearing up the rotor issue.  Believe it or not I've been following this saga since December, but it's easy to lose track unless you are building the thing.

... Q:  Did I confuse the issue by posting pics of your rotor, and should I remove them?

Cheers, 

Yada..
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[vipond50]

@ Vipond

Thanks for clearing up the rotor issue.  Believe it or not I've been following this saga since December, but it's easy to lose track unless you are building the thing.

... Q:  Did I confuse the issue by posting pics of your rotor, and should I remove them?

Cheers, 

Yada..
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Hi Yada
Enjoy your work relating to the acoustics, believe there is some excellent info hidden in the data.
As far as the Pic's, it would be up to the rest of the crew as to weather it would be confusing. I recommend to identify (easily) so the two devices are keep separated for clearity.
Just my thoughts

Please keep up the excellent work
Regards
Bill

[Omnibus]

@vipond50,

So, the rotor weight 258g we are aiming at includes the HDPE part, the magnets and the piece that holds the shaft. These 258g, however, do not include the weight of the shaft and the weight of that red piece we see in the video on top of the rotor. Seems the actual weight of the rotor in the video is greater than 258g. Exactly how much greater is a mystery.

At this point I'm more concerned about the exact weights, especially of the rotor, and about the kgauss of the fields acting. The bearing issue seems a somewhat side issue--the over 200s rundown time being easily achievable with the bearings in the rotor and the AGW not difficult to lock especially when applying penetrating lubricant.