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Overunity Machines Forum



Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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Yadaraf

Quote from: Omnibus on February 07, 2008, 07:24:48 PM
@Yadaraf,

Here is a sound sample of the rig with which I saw the initial encouraging results (then with rectangular magnets). The weight of the rotor is 237g (HDPE + cylinder magnets + bearings). Although I've tried it also with N35 and N38 I'm sending you the sample with N42. The strength of the magnets didn't seem to make any difference. Here all three stators are present as well as the two dampers. Unfortunately, I couldn't take the rpm measurements--too many things to take care at once. But the initial rpm are on the order of 370rpm which I determined by spinning it in advance several times. In the sample you can hear that the AGW lock up kicks in after the second trial. Sometimes the AGW can appear right after the first trial, sometimes even several trials cannot achieve it until the rpm go below certain level. Let's see what this sample will show if you feel like analyzing it and then we'll take it from there.

Omni,

Here you are.  The baseline wasn't very clean.

Cheers,   :)

Yada..
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Omnibus

@Yadaraf,

Thanks. So, the tone at 174Hz seen here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3871.msg75888.html#msg75888 is missing in my spectrum a 228Hz present instead. The 849-861Hz peak is also missing, the closest being the 929Hz. In the above link there are no peaks in the kHz region seen in my spectrum. The only similarity is the separation on the order of 700Hz between the two leftmost characteristic peaks. All in all mine sounds (never mind the pun) pretty different from @alsetalokin?s. I wonder if the pattern similar to that in the link would be the characteristic one for a working device or it?s just an artifact. Later will make a sound sample with the other rotor to see if there would be any similarity with this spectrum.

Omnibus

@Yadaraf,

Here's the sample with my 266g rotor just for comparison. I know that 237g as was my other rotor and this 266g differ from the original but it isn't at all certain that the original is 258g because that's its weight without the red piece seen on top of it in the video. So. let's see what this sample will show and then I may revert back to the lighter rotor because achieving AGW here wasn't as easy at higher rpm.

Yadaraf

Quote from: Omnibus on February 07, 2008, 09:41:32 PM
@Yadaraf,

Here's the sample with my 266g rotor just for comparison. I know that 237g as was my other rotor and this 266g differ from the original but it isn't at all certain that the original is 258g because that's its weight without the red piece seen on top of it in the video. So. let's see what this sample will show and then I may revert back to the lighter rotor because achieving AGW here wasn't as easy at higher rpm.

Omni,

Attached is an analysis of the last file.  Neither of the last two audios are similar to Al's audio with respect to the dominant and dynamic 174 Hz tone.

Both audio files are fairly clean, but low in amplitude.  If you could locate the microphone closer, that might help.  Please remember to disable the AGC if possible.

If you can use two mics to monitor the stator and rotor separately, plug one into the LEFT channel [rotor?] and the second into the RIGHT [stator].    ;)

Cheers,   :)

Yada..
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Omnibus

@Yadaraf,

It's become clear that the acoustic properties of my rig are quite different from the original. Should this be of concern, however? Imagine that we know the exact parameters that would provide the proper timing for net forward push, would this be only achievable with particular materials, bearings, thicknesses, radii that would ensure the same acoustics? Suppose you observe the sounds in the frequency domain of various working internal combustion engines, will they exhibit similar patterns even though made by different manufacturers. Quite doubtful, unless you have evidence to the contrary which would be very interesting.

It would be interesting to see what @vipond50's, @Bruce_TPU's and anybody else's spectra will be and if there would be any common features and not a total mess. That's just out of curiosity. You wouldn't expect such analysis to bring any clues as to the direction of research, would you?

Now, purely mechanically it seems that the device likes a lighter rotor. Like I said, I don't see any difference when N42 magnets are replaced with N38 or N35. However, with this lighter rotor (237g) AGW locking is easier and the fewer the stators the easier it gets. Very good AGW results are obtained with only two stators outstanding almost diagonally from each other. What's most intriguing is that at the moment the AGW is achieved it seems that a tendency towards acceleration is felt momentarily which promptly disappears. This has to be confirmed, however, quantitatively with a better tachometer than the one I have. It seems that the main reason for getting out of sync (although still in AGW rotation) is the wrong proportion between the weights and probably the wrong proportion of the magnetic field strengths. How are these to be fine tuned is a real challenge.