Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

[Omnibus]

@Yadaraf,

I have no words. Could it be that we'll see the Lego motor in full shine before we get any clue about this project? Keep up the great work but don't get addicted.

[Grimer]

@ Omnibus

> Let's start from the beginning. The H-B loop you refer to isn't the usually
> observed H-B loop which relates an external H field producing the B field in
> the permanent magnets, correct? The permanent magnets we use are already made,
> energy has been spent to produce them and so on. The H-B field which you have
> in mind is something different--you arbitrarily (I understand it's stronger
> but still that's an arbitrary choice) choose the field of the stators to be
> the H field, an H field other than the H field that produced the permanent
> magnetism in the rotor magnet, and this H field causes some B field in the
> rotors other than the B field which is already there to begin with because
> these are permanent magnets from the get go, correct? Let's establish this
> difference first and then go from there.

One can push a magnet around a BH loop either by varying the strength of a stationary electromagnet or by varying the position of a stronger permanent magnet.

In the case of the Alsetalokin Motor I am taking the stator magnets to be the H field and the rotor magnets to be the B field. I'm assuming that the stator magnets are operating in their reversible (straight line) region and the B magnets are operating in an irreversible region, such as the knee in the second quadrant.

Any magnet is only "permanent" until it is subjected to a stronger field as the BH loop shows.
The H stator magnets are not subject to a stronger field than themselves since the B rotor magnets are weaker and so the H magnets are "permanent". The B magnets, the rotor magnets, are subjected to a stronger field than themselves so the B magnets are impermanent, "permanent" magnets.

[CLaNZeR]

One can push a magnet around a BH loop either by varying the strength of a stationary electromagnet or by varying the position of a stronger permanent magnet.

In the case of the Alsetalokin Motor I am taking the stator magnets to be the H field and the rotor magnets to be the B field. I'm assuming that the stator magnets are operating in their reversible (straight line) region and the B magnets are operating in an irreversible region, such as the knee in the second quadrant.

Thats interesting, I was thinking more that the Rotor would be the H that interacted on the Stators the B curve as such.
Especially when the rotor has got to a speed where the rotor hardly effects the stator magnets.
Obviously the Stator magnets are also effecting the Rotor but I thought that the primary effect would be rotor to stator.

Think I will stick to building hehe 

Cheers

Sean.

[Grimer]

@CLaNZeR,

Did you try Liquid Wrench Penetrating and Lubricating Oil? It was like night and day--bearings that had no intention of AGW started latching like hell. When I applied it to the rotor at one point it was too good--hindered somewhat the AGW locking. After a while it got back to itself and now latching-wise all is good. To no avail, though. Where is this darn acceleration?

When it "latches" does the rotor decelerate at exactly the same rate as unlatched or does it decelerate at some other value?

[Grimer]

One can push a magnet around a BH loop either by varying the strength of a stationary electromagnet or by varying the position of a stronger permanent magnet.

In the case of the Alsetalokin Motor I am taking the stator magnets to be the H field and the rotor magnets to be the B field. I'm assuming that the stator magnets are operating in their reversible (straight line) region and the B magnets are operating in an irreversible region, such as the knee in the second quadrant.

That's interesting, I was thinking more that the Rotor would be the H that interacted on the Stators the B curve as such.
Especially when the rotor has got to a speed where the rotor hardly effects the stator magnets.
Obviously the Stator magnets are also effecting the Rotor but I thought that the primary effect would be rotor to stator.

Think I will stick to building hehe 

Cheers

Sean.

The H has to be the stronger. The H is analogous to Stress and the B to Strain. That is why I follow the Cornell convention and always plot H as the ordinate (y axis) and B as the abscissa (x axis).