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Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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Bruce_TPU

#2450
February 13, 2008, 10:01:31 PM
Hi Omni,

The liquid wrench worked well.  It has allowed me to achieve AGW, but no joy.  It does give a longer wind down time.  It feels like something is not quit right.  I think perhaps the stator holder may be slipping on the bearing, and have thought to glue them in, but I hate that idea.  It could make a difference with slippage.  Also, there is something about the Stator magnets.  Either seem too weak or rotor magnets too strong, I don't know, just something about when it goes to AGW, I can almost imagine it keeps wanting to go but dies...  Thoughts, Ideas? 

Please put together a short list of important questions we need answered from Al and send to Sean to see if he can get them to Al, so that we do not get stuck.

@ All
I am still working on the bearing issue.  It has turned into a goose chase.  They gave a Dallas number to the bearing guy, but never an answer of the phone or machine.  The bearing guy is trying to track down a company name and address.  It is being worked on.  I am supposed to call him tomorrow.

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

sm0ky2

#2451
February 13, 2008, 10:40:23 PM
hi bruce,

if its possible to adjust the distance between the stator and rotor that seems to be the best way to fix that problem. set them at the appropriate distance, so that they stay snychronized. If this is not possible with your design, the next thing to consider is swapping out the magnets.

the stator magnet makes sense because theres only one quick change, vs tearing your rotor apart...

the down side of this is that you may only have one diametrically-magnetized ring, or as is the case with some people, they ordered an extra two or three, but they are all the same size. So your next bet would be to either swap to the size of the rotor mags, or - bring them closer in to the center of the rotor.
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

Omnibus

#2452
February 14, 2008, 02:12:25 AM
@Bruce_TPU,

Can't agree more: "just something about when it goes to AGW, I can almost imagine it keeps wanting to go but dies." Same here. Sometimes more pronounced, sometimes less. And, again, I stress the dramatic effect of the lubricant on the device as it is now. I can only imagine what effect will have changing the distances between rotor and stators, rotor weight etc. Unfortunately, most of our rigs do not allow at all to change these parameters and this is one of the greatest weaknesses here in this particular experiment and in the research in this entire area. Had we had this freedom of changing parameters (and they aren't as many as in some other engineering problems) we could try to apply methods such the ones described here: http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0471255114,descCd-tableOfContents.html
The way we're doing the experiments, far from the modern scientific requirements, we can only hope to hit on the effect by sheer chance, as seems to have been the case with @alsetalokin, an effect which he can't probably reproduce now. Well, that's the reality for such out-of-the-ordinary experiments where needed money should either be spent out of pocket, as we do, or provided by parties who hate to hear about science and only listen to promises for return on investment, something we can't do by any means (and some of us don?t even want to hear about investing in science by having in mind exclusively profit).

sm0ky2

#2453
February 14, 2008, 10:55:46 AM
@funky

almost any drag or torque that works against the wheels spinning is very bad for this design. your bearings should be as low friction as possible, so that you can spin it with your finger and it goes a long way.

anything less than that is going to work against you in some fashion, so i would try to reduce the

"hard to turn" as much as you can.
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

Omnibus

#2454
February 14, 2008, 11:01:54 AM
Quote from: sm0ky2 on February 14, 2008, 10:55:46 AM
@funky

almost any drag or torque that works against the wheels spinning is very bad for this design. your bearings should be as low friction as possible, so that you can spin it with your finger and it goes a long way.

anything less than that is going to work against you in some fashion, so i would try to reduce the

"hard to turn" as much as you can.

That's not obvious judging from @alsetalokin's video and the noises heard therein.
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