No magnetc field

[The Eskimo Quinn]

Well, for the good old school teachings of three schools of thought,

one the magnetic earth centre,
two the magnetic field theory and
three the magnetite northern pole theory.

for the first all science has agreed so far we do NOT KNOW what is in the centre of the earth, and unless it is a bar magnet pointing north south, i think we can rule it out, a spherical magnet does not work in that fashion BOING theory bounced.

for the second magnetic field around the earth, HHMM possible, yet because Tesla thought so, I am inclined to disagree, mostly because he, and anyone who believed his suspended pole theory knows nothing of physics. If there was a full metal ring around the planet 20 feet off the ground, it could not fall anywhere because it is equally pulled from every surface below by gravity, keeping it suspended, no magnets required. If Tesla had half a brain he would have known that, about as smart as newton who never thought of an original idea in his life, Newton:gee let me see, if we push an object it should continue unless interfered by another force, wow what a man he must be a God, pity Galileo thought of it before his grandfather was born, useless d!ckhead. although if a metal ore belt is under the sirface somewhere around the equator a north sole field at the poles would be possible, otherwise the field must be evenly spread.

for the third magnetite, probably the most sound yet least of the proponents, i will go with this from what we know to be true as a proven fact, entire islands and area the size of some states destroy compass readings by planes and boats, so most certainly a pole comprising vast quantities of magnetite would by any standard of physics be sufficient to control all needles, equally the north pole gives off high magnetic field readings the south or opposing pole does not, if it were a field the readings would be identical. This too would also rectify the global map, written by those who lived on top of it, EG: a slow cooling planet has a fat bum, as it forms a pear shape at the base, a fast cooling planet is the opposite, like a gold pan, all the heavy material is in the centre at the base whilst the lighter materials are flung and expand out the top whilst spinning giving a pear shape to the top at high speed. this would mean for the magnetite to be at the thin end, it must have cooled rapidly, ipsofacto, our map of the earth is upside down, of course had the first map makers and explorers been located down south, it would be up the other way ( so it was no possible to fall off)

The answer is it is unknown and we each have our opinions, i have simply given information to support my own. You have given no information to support Why the needles move if there is no field or magnetic force.

[sparks]

@Eskimo Quinn

       I am not saying that there is a  static construct of the core of the Earth that gives rise to the near and far magnetic fields of the Earth.  What I'm saying is that there is an electrical current inside the core of the Earth that gives rise to the magnetosphere which perpectuates the magnetosphere and results in Earth's spin and orbit.  This electrical current arises from the shape of the magnetosphere (the wave guide) and the electrical oscillations of the em waves radiating from the sun. 
I contend the Earth's core is iron just because it is still around. Iron defies gravity.  Look what's left around a black hole once a whole Galaxy is concentrated to the size of a basketball. Iron because of it's construct is influenced more by the dispersion force of the Universe than any other form of matter.  Iron also has electrical flow memory.  Deposits of magnetie most probably arose from fierce electrical storms that resulted in lightning strikes flowing through the frozen iron on the Earth's ancient surface. Scientists say the moon's core is frozen iron blown out of the Earth's core.  I believe first there was hydrogen and last there will be iron.  A construct of being equally affected by the two primal forces of the Universe.
       
       Telsa's endeavours were to charge a capacitor with generators at point a
then create a HIGHPOWERED oscillator and send the em energy from this oscillator into the ground in a vectored direction so they would show up at point b. This wasn't a cb radio transmitter (Marconi was enchanting the world with radio communications at the time)   This was wireless POWER.  No transmission lines no telephone poles.  He was using the Earth's crust as an antennae for millions of horsepower transmission.  Maybe his ring if it was powered up with an electron vortex flow would produce a magnetic field which would react with Earth's.  Betya that ring would start a moving.

[allcanadian]

Tesla said everything was made of charge carriers in an insulating medium, this includes a "magnetic" field which is an effect of these carriers---not cause, the magnetic field was considered electric in nature, the original works of Weber, Amphere and others have shown this . I would like to point out a blatant contradiction here, the EM theory is just that ---- a theory, and if a "theory" fails in any case ---- even once, then it is an incorrect theory. EM theory has NO room for purely electrostatic longintudinal waves, it has NO room for purely magnetic torsion waves. So either you buy into the EM theory and call thousands of open minded scientists liars or the EM theory is false, incorrect or in Teslas words a delusion.
Here is an interesting read------http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1919-05-00.htm
Tesla did real experiments nobody wants to talk about because as I said the EM theory holds true in every case or it doesn't in any case, I will let you come to your own conclusions.

[sparks]

@all canadien

    You leave out the third possibility that both are imperfect.  I respect Telsa's work.  When you view it with what he had to work with you respect it even more.  Telsa was a builder like Lee DeForest. He would build experiment and then build some more according to the results of his experiments.  He made mistakes like everyone else.  Elastic aether?  He was into generating at point a and receiving at point b. He used the Earth as an antennae and shot high frequency high power energy into it.  The wave was still guided by magnetic field propogation.  He himself stated that 95 percent of the transmission could be current which left 5 percent of the transmission energy going into guiding the current.  He must have had a hell of a time trying to calculate how far his potential was going to go considering the antennae he was using.
Longitudanal em transmission does not equate to scalar em.  I can see scalar em working if you can fill a field with say electrons or photons then electrically "push" on the field.  Electrons and photons do have mass so the energy flow would be scalar.

[allcanadian]

@sparks
LOL

The wave was still guided by magnetic field propogation.  He himself stated that 95 percent of the transmission could be current which left 5 percent of the transmission energy going into guiding the current.

I mean no offense but you have taken Teslas words completely out of context, here is what he said--

Counsel
Let's see if I understand this correctly. If you have radiation or electromagnetic waves going from your system, the energy is wasted?
Tesla
Absolutely wasted. From my circuit you can get either electromagnetic waves, 90 percent of electromagnetic waves if you like, and 10 percent in the current energy that passes through the earth. Or, you can reverse the process and get 10 percent of the energy in electromagnetic waves and 90 percent in energy of the current that passes through the earth.

By proper design and choice of wave lengths, you can arrange it so that you get, for instance, 5 percent in these electromagnetic waves and 95 percent in the current that goes through the earth.  That is what I am doing.  Or you can get, as these radio men, 95 percent in the energy of electromagnetic waves and only 5 percent in the energy of the current. . . . The apparatus is suitable for one or the other method.  I am not producing radiation with my system; I am suppressing electromagnetic waves. . . . In my system, you should free yourself of the idea that there is radiation, that the energy is radiated.  It is not radiated; it is conserved. . . .

By proper design and choice of wave lengths, you can arrange it so that you get, for instance, 5 percent in these electromagnetic waves and 95 percent in the current that goes through the earth.  That is what I am doing.  Or you can get, as these radio men, 95 percent in the energy of electromagnetic waves and only 5 percent in the energy of the current. . . . The apparatus is suitable for one or the other method.  I am not producing radiation with my system; I am suppressing electromagnetic waves. . . . In my system, you should free yourself of the idea that there is radiation, that the energy is radiated.  It is not radiated; it is conserved. . . .

Read the article ----------http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/nt_on_ac.htm#A7
Teslas machines could develop potentials above 12 million volts at megacycle frequencies, instantaneous energies in the millions of horsepower range ---- and none of the so called experts then nor today can reproduce his work, that should tell you something.