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I HAVE A PERMANENT MAGNET MOTOR IDEA THAT WORKS!!! WHAT'S NEXT?

Started by dooleydragon, January 10, 2008, 10:48:17 PM

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dooleydragon

Hello everyone,

I've been working on making my own magnet motor for some time now, a lil' over 2 years to be exact.
When after my first year of working on an idea I ran across something... I had my magnets placed around
the rotor in a certain PATTERN. I had given up my last attempt had failed. I then was taking it apart when
I picked up another Neodymium magnet and as my hand was passing the rotor it started to spin... but not
just one rotation... I started to notice that it kept spinning and didn't stop spinning until I moved my hand away
from the rotor. At that point in time I new I had came across something that I had been working days and hours
on and I felt very estatic. I then got online and started ordering the same kind of magnets and better materials. I
even spent numerous of hours searching to make sure there wasn't any ideas or patents that I may have magically
made a replica of... the only patent that is close to my idea is the prenedev motor.. which I believe is real but on his
magnet motor the way his is actually set up you can't tell just by looking at it.. you must look at the actual patent and
drawings his magnet aren't the round cylinders showing on the outside the actual magnet is embedded within' the
cylinder not revealing how his magnet's are actually placed. My desing however does and for that reason I am afraid
to show my design not wanting to give my information to the wrong person.

Now to the point. If you where in my shoes and had a design that works what would you do? how would you handle it?
please don't respond to this in a negative way. I'd actually like to hear good input and advice.

Thank You

hydrocontrol

Can you make it spin without using your hand holding the magnet but instead have the magnet that was in your hand in a fixed position ?

If 'yes' then you may have something and you move to step 2.
If 'No' then it most likely have an effect of your hand pulsing the rotor. Been there. Done that.

Step 2.  Make a second one to see if you can duplicate.
If 'yes' then move to step 3.
if 'no' then go back a step to figure out why. Maybe was a fluke.

Step 3.
Detemine if it is scaleble to provide some sort of useful work, like powering a car, a generator, etc.. 
If 'yes' then move to step 4.
If 'no' then all hope is not lost. Cool toys sell pretty good.

Step 4
Either patent it which does not mean you will get anything after all the hassle. Likely will be rejected or classified as secret due to security issues.
or
Try to produce it yourself which will be hard to compete with low cost labor from some countries and after they get one and reverse engineer it the flood gate of copies will open.
or.
Try to get some investors to help you but they tend to want to rip you off and run away with your idea.
or
release as GNU project with the hope that it might do some good in the world.

JAG

Step 5 - In addition to hydrocontrol's list - JREF challenge. If you prove perpetual motion you can claim a Million dollar prize. (Of course some people don't like randi's methods of testing. If successful however you score yourself a million dollars and a LOT of press.

rotorhead

Or you could contribute it to the public domain as with the WhipMag Rotor (OC MPMM) and let anyone who wants it do whatever the wish. Not much money in it, but you'll make a lot of friends.

dooleydragon

Quote from: hydrocontrol on January 10, 2008, 11:16:15 PM
Can you make it spin without using your hand holding the magnet but instead have the magnet that was in your hand in a fixed position ?

If 'yes' then you may have something and you move to step 2.
If 'No' then it most likely have an effect of your hand pulsing the rotor. Been there. Done that.

Step 2.  Make a second one to see if you can duplicate.
If 'yes' then move to step 3.
if 'no' then go back a step to figure out why. Maybe was a fluke.

Step 3.
Detemine if it is scaleble to provide some sort of useful work, like powering a car, a generator, etc.. 
If 'yes' then move to step 4.
If 'no' then all hope is not lost. Cool toys sell pretty good.

Step 4
Either patent it which does not mean you will get anything after all the hassle. Likely will be rejected or classified as secret due to security issues.
or
Try to produce it yourself which will be hard to compete with low cost labor from some countries and after they get one and reverse engineer it the flood gate of copies will open.
or.
Try to get some investors to help you but they tend to want to rip you off and run away with your idea.
or
release as GNU project with the hope that it might do some good in the world.

Thank You hydrocontrol for that information... It was what I was pretty much looking for.
I have a lot more questions not only about what I have to do next but about magnets themselve.
I've been doing a lot of research on the properties of magnets themself. Are magnets basically
a physical form of electricity? and if so do they operate the same way a frequency phase wave does?
or alternating current wave?