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Meyer HV Sync-Wave (HV Water Fracturing)

Started by Dogs, January 16, 2008, 07:07:20 AM

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zerotensor

When I came across this "polarity reversal" thing, I assumed that one would pulse  the plates alternately, i.e. the (+) plate and the (-) plate would periodically switch roles.  Note that this is not the same thing as AC, 'though it does bear a close resemblance to it.

zerotensor

Thinking about this a little more, perhaps there is a difference if you "push" on one side while "pulling" on the other.  That is, although the potential difference between the plates is the same as holding one plate at ground and "pulling" twice as hard, the potential difference between the plates and the waterwould be different.

As the excess charge in the water is supposedly recovered via the "electron extraction circuit", the absolute polarity of the plates relative to the water would make a difference, assuming that the mechanism for extracting the "water charge" is somehow coupled to ground.

Get my drift?

HeairBear

What it looks like to me is a modified voltage divider. The +ve and -ve is called a voltage differential. If +12v is on one side and -12v on the other, we have a difference of 24v. Kinda like on ATX power supply units from PC's. I have tried using the PC power supply's voltage differential leads, but, it just shuts down. Although, I did not try to ground the water as drawn in Stan's diagram.
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zerotensor

Quote from: Farrah Day on January 22, 2008, 05:41:36 PM
..We pull water apart without the interaction of ions and and what do we get?  A H2 molecule and a O++ ion or an O atom and two H- ions?  So, we do manage to pull them apart and what is the first thing that they are going to want to do once out of the electrostatic field... yes, restabilise as water.

A lot of these questions bother me, because if we are getting true O2 and H2, then voltage alone cannot achieve this - surely we need the electron.

Ah, but have you seen the HHO plasma torch demos where the flame vaporizes metal, yet doesn't instantly burn skin?  It would seem that the gas is ionized.  This implies that yes, the ions do "want" to recombine, but will tolerate, at least temporarily, existence in a metastable mixture.

Also, in Stan's setup, there is this business of the "electron extraction circuit", whose job it is to balance the electron part of the equation, while recovering real, usable electric charge.

AhuraMazda

Now here is another version that comes to mind:

one side of the cell is connected to say +12V, the other to -12V. NOW...
there is a a third pad which is connected to the water. This pad is made
to oscillate somewhere at some frequency and not necessarily about 0v.
This idea puts the water molecules in some orientation and then they are
induced to break apart.

Stan did not have two heads you know. He could not have been that clever.