DEBATE THREAD

[Rosphere]

Consider the simple experimental device shown here.



The large flywheel is joined to the small pulley wheel and this assembly is free to spin on an axis.  A string is wrapped around the pulley and attached to a movable magnet.  Another magnet is introduced in attraction mode at some distance away from the first.  Now for a couple rhetorical questions:

Will the flywheel accelerate?

Will the flywheel continue to run indefinitely?

I was intrigued with the acceleration in Al's OC MPMM video for many days.  Now I am thinking that Al's device is nothing more than a complex version of this device.  I really do hope that I am wrong about this.

[hansvonlieven]

BTW: There have been web sites that just don't exist now or when they did exist. Even to the point they were gone within minutes even in the Akamai cache.

G'day BEP and all,

There could be any number of reasons why a website gets taken off and all record of it gets deleted also. When you visit a website not all content is visible to you if the owner so wishes.

On my website I have a number of pages that are inaccessible to the public and where I send the URL to the people that I want to read it. It is a useful thing.

This kind of mechanism can also be abused. Set up a technical type of site and put your terrorist ideas, kiddieporn, or your drug trafficking instructions on hidden pages that are only accessible to people in the know. It is easy enough to do.

It needn't be a suppression of emerging technology to see such sites disappear.

Just a thought.

Hans von Lieven.

[DA]

This is for omnibus

I can only assume that you have got your whipmag replication working, otherwise why would you be telling other people their theories and ideas are wrong.

On the other hand if you have not got it working then you know as much as the rest of us at this point, NOTHING.

It's disappointing really, you started out good in that particular whipmag thread, but now you have gone back to your old ways, please dont spoil that thread with your usual obsessiveness.

Poor Omnibus, everyone picks on Omnibus.  I find his posts more interesting than most.  He is always most frank, and will not spare your feelings when telling you that you are wrong.  This shows a very strong inner honesty, he is unable to lie to you about your faults. He's not wishy-washy about it either, he'll tell you that you are wrong even before he understands what you said.  This saves a lot of time, so that more people don't follow these "wrong" ideas.

Omnibus is also very good at keeping everyone "on track", reminding us that we must duplicate Al's machine exactly.  This thread is here for that one and only thing!  There are of course branches that Omnibus rightly finds worthy, and I'm glad he's here so I know which is which.

And don't forget that Omnibus is the first and only human to prove that overunity does exist, and has posted a video to show it.  It's real, it has measurements and a level and everything.  I haven't found his proof yet, but I have seen him mention it several times.  I sure would like to read it, anyone have a link to it?  I bet he's about to publish it at that university he teaches at, didn't someone mention he was a professor somewhere, or am I mistaken?

I haven't replicated his video yet, I don't have the proper magnets yet.  Did he mention which ones he used?

I wish he'd post a video of his replication of the whip mag.  I think he said the results were "encouraging" at first.  I bet he's just fine tuning it for the video and it'll be the best one yet.


We should be glad to have Omnibus around, he has many good qualities. 

Look for the diamond, it might be buried in mud and hard to see, but it's there.

[PolyMatrix]

Well I have put up two a half-baked ideas, one about smot based on some of the research I have been doing, the other on a curious effect seen in a 'singing' bowl.

I would also like to know an explanation for the Tibetan Bowl effect, which helped me think up another half-baked idea.

{Rant mode on, with apologies to sceptics}
Why does it 'feel' like the sceptics just sit on the sidelines comfortable and secure in their 'correct' reality even bother with the apparent Ã,‘eccentricÃ,’ chatter? If the 'eccentric' people are happily tinkering and not harming anyone why bother them. For me this needling of the 'eccentric' seems very childish, arrogant and counterproductive. The only things that may be gained from this is the 'feeling' of higher status in society and making the stubborn 'eccentric' work harder. They can not {sceptics} be bothered to check out the facts presented to them because they do not come from established authorities, nor do they seem to wish to think for themselves and just let their curiosity be seeing entertainment value taking a peek at what the 'eccentric' is up to.
{rant off}

The vid of a SMOT built of Lego is very much proof that it works. There is also a vid from a physics fare showing water running up hill. Yet I still see posts saying it can't possibly be true, and I am not going to be moved from this viewpoint.

'Eccentrics' appreciate constructive criticisms like "Did you remember to check/look for wind resistance" because sometimes a person can get tunnel vision and not see the metal wrench is what is affecting his experiment. Ask any programmer why he tells the monitor exactly why his program should be working when it is not.

I donÃ,’t expect anything to happen but at least I have found a forum that just might find someone curious enough and bright enough to have a bit of fun by building and trying out a half-baked idea.

[Bessler007]

PolyMatrix,

Your rant tags should include  your entire post. 


Bessler007
mib HQ