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Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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PerpetualLurker

So from test #4 we have a conventional toroid that draws near 0 Watts under no load and provides 8.5 Watts out with 94% efficiency.

And from test #7 we have a toroid that draws 17 Watts under no load and provides 8.6 Watts out with 41% efficiency.

OilBarren

QuoteHi Thane.  Thanks for sharing all your information and work with us.  I want to help and experiment with you and Luc.  My friend the electrician is working on our new stadium here in town and my in-law the engineer is out of the country (Japan). 

Will you help me?  I have some elementary knowledge of electricity and electronics so I shouldn't have too much of a problem when I get started.. but what do you suggest I use for my coils?  what gauge and how many turns?  What size magnets do you suggest?  How do you feed the 'back emf' back into the steel shaft to speed the motor up?

I am excited and happy for your discovery and I hope to meet you someday!! 

Take care,

Bill

HEY BILL,

WELCOME ABOARD - DON'T BE SHY TO ASK QUESTIONS EVERYONE HERE WILL HELP YOU.

Thane

OilBarren

Quote from: PerpetualLurker on April 06, 2008, 09:44:18 PM
So from test #4 we have a conventional toroid that draws near 0 Watts under no load and provides 8.5 Watts out with 94% efficiency.

And from test #7 we have a toroid that draws 17 Watts under no load and provides 8.6 Watts out with 41% efficiency.

LURKER,
WE DON'T SEE THE WORLD AS IT IS
WE SEE IT AS WE ARE.

SO YES YOU CAN LOOK AT IT THAT WAY IF YOU CHOOSE (WHICH IS NEGATIVE)
OR YOU CAN SEE AN:

INPUT INCREASE OF 4 watts
AND AN
OUTPUT INCREASE OF 8.6 watts
(WHICH IS POSITIVE)

YOUR CHOICE

Thane

THANKS JM -
NOTE 1: HOW THE CURRENT DROPS 0.14 A WHEN PLACED ON LOAD?

NOTE 2: PRIMARY POWER FACTOR SHOULD MIRROR LOAD POWER FACTOR OF 1.
IT DOES NOT WHICH IS A VERY ENCOURAGING SIGN THAT SECONDARY BACK EMF INDUCED MMF'S ARE NOT MUTUALLY COUPLING BACK THROUGH THE PRIMARY.

JustMe

Latest transformer pics via Thane

aether22

Quote from: OilBarren on April 05, 2008, 09:17:39 AM
Thane, just got the rotor before I left, currently in an internet cafe (without the cafe) in Queenstown.

I HOPE YOU ARE HAVING OR HAD A GOOD VACATION.

Anyway it seems 6 of the magnets escaped the packaging, ideally you could send me more, otherwise what size are they, the 1 inch seems right from memory but as I don't have it here I'm not sure.

THEY ARE 1" FROM LEE VALLEY - I SENT YOU 18 MAGNETS - 6 x 2 ON THE ROTOR + 6 MORE IN A PLASTIC CONTAINER WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN STUCK TO SOMETHING INSIDE THE BOX LIKE THE ROTOR OR THE ARBOUR?

When you ran this rotor you sent me with just the 6 magnets how many coils did you use to get the
acceleration, just one?

JUST 1 - BUT THE MORE THE MERRIER.

If so some specs could be good, I wound a bunch but suspect all are too small.

SO MAKE THEM BIGGER - 200 ohms WORTH OF 26 GAUGE SHOULD WORK VERY WELL - VINCE AND COMMENTS? ALSO PERHAPS THIS PHENOMENON ONLY WORKS IN CANADA - WHICH WAY DOES YOUR MOTOR SPIN WHEN YOU PUT IT IN THE SINK?

And do you recall or have any record of the RPM needed to get the effect with this rotor? (3 times higher than in the videos due to 1/3rd the number of magnets?)

IT DEPENDS ON THE MOTOR AND OTHER FACTORS BUT OURS WILL START TO ACCELERATE AT 200 RPM.

Thanks.

It's not with me, but I am pretty sure there were only 6 magnets on the wheel and the 6 in the box leaving me 6 short.
I'll have to look into it when I get back I guess but it's bet my left nut on their only being 6 on the rotor, hope it's safe ;)

I'll make larger coils as suggested, 200rpm doesn't sound very high but I have not rigged up any tach yet to be sure.
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes