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Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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vince

After reading this thread for a while I thought I might try my hand at the Heins transformer. What I did is a little different from all of your experiments in that I took a standard 120 volt to 12 volt  ac transformer and the field core and  windings from a 120 volt fan motor and milled them to fit together in a T shape dual flux path transformer.  I then welded the two cores together. You can see a picture of it below. My thought was that the induced voltage would travel to the center core from the outer leg and back emf would take the easiest path around the center core.This was actually my second unit as the first one was bolted together.  Both behave in exactly the same way.  When I apply AC voltage to the new grafted on primary, the secondary coil which was the primary of the original transformer sees a voltage as you would expect.  The strange thing is that if you load the new secondary it does not affect the input current at all, not even if it is shorted out. I'm not sure if this means anything or not.  Maybe one of you more knowledgeable electrical types might have a take on my experiment. I would appreciate any comments.

hartiberlin

Quote from: gotoluc on February 13, 2008, 12:33:19 PM

@dani1 I have not yet uploaded the video's to my youtube account since it takes lots of time and bandwith to upload and I was waiting to see it there is a large enough interest to do so. Also my video is not showing anything diffrent than what you can see in Thane's video's. The only thing is it was done in the presence of 3 members of this forum and with my own video camera.

I will do it if Stefan requests for my video's to be posted or if 2 more members ask for it.

Thank you for your interest

Luc


Hi Luc,
yes,  please post the videos,
if they are each under 5 MB here as an attachment,
if they are bigger,please upload to e.g.
www.megaupload.com
and post the links to them over here.
Many thanks in advance.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

hartiberlin

Quote from: vince on February 13, 2008, 09:41:36 PM
After reading this thread for a while I thought I might try my hand at the Heins transformer. What I did is a little different from all of your experiments in that I took a standard 120 volt to 12 volt  ac transformer and the field core and  windings from a 120 volt fan motor and milled them to fit together in a T shape dual flux path transformer.  I then welded the two cores together. You can see a picture of it below. My thought was that the induced voltage would travel to the center core from the outer leg and back emf would take the easiest path around the center core.This was actually my second unit as the first one was bolted together.  Both behave in exactly the same way.  When I apply AC voltage to the new grafted on primary, the secondary coil which was the primary of the original transformer sees a voltage as you would expect.  The strange thing is that if you load the new secondary it does not affect the input current at all, not even if it is shorted out. I'm not sure if this means anything or not.  Maybe one of you more knowledgeable electrical types might have a take on my experiment. I would appreciate any comments.

Many thanks for this info.
Please post details how you measured this device and
what the voltage and amps settings were and how much
power you pumped into it and at what frequency and
what the output reading was.
Many thanks.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

wizkycho

Quote from: ltseung888 on February 06, 2008, 01:01:07 AM
Look at this simple video:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/665396/how_increase_speed_of_electric_motor/

Just repeated the experiment with my oral B electric tooth brush.  The frequency (or the sound from the vibrating brush system) changed with the approaching of a strong magnet.

So there is nothing revolutionary with the Thane Heins discovery???

Hi Itseung888 !

Have You made this beutifull scalable eyeopener experiment ?
If so many thanks to You, and before we say we have breahthrough can you please
dissmantle tooth brush and put A-meter and meassure current from battery with and without magnets.

I even expect current drop !?!
is it so

again big THX and all the best

Wiz

It is not overlooked, cause knowone ever looked at all.

gyulasun

Quote from: LarryC on February 13, 2008, 04:33:47 PM
The Bi-Toroid Transformer design appears to be pure simple genius.

The following is an excerpt from a University Physics book describing how a transformer works: 'The process by which the transformer is enabled to draw the requisite amount of power is as follows. When the secondary circuit is open, the core flux is produced by the primary current only. But when the secondary circuit is closed, both primary and secondary currents set up a flux in the core. The secondary current, by Lenz's law, tends to weaken the core flux and therefore to decrease the back-emf in the primary. But the back-emf in the primary must equal the primary terminal voltage, which is assumed to be fixed. The primary current therefore increases until the core flux is restored to its original no-load magnitude.'

Since it appears that the design will decouple the primary and secondary flux, there should be no increase in current in the primary. The only small losses will be from wire resistance, hysteresis, and eddy currents. The normal for a no load transformer.

His design does not break Lenz's law, he seems to have found a way around it. His unorthodox design of his original generator, using an iron wheel instead of a non-ferrous type like the other 1000's of attempt on OU sites was very serendipitous. At first glance it appears that most of the permanent magnet flux would have been wrapping into the edge of the wheel. His results caused him to look into why the motor speeded up, which resulted in how he found out about the decoupling benefits. What great luck for the world.

By the way, most ceiling fan motors have a large toroid of laminated steel.

Regards, LarryC

Hi Larry and all,

The principle of the Bi toroid transformer recalls my memories on the so-called "ph-machine" from the 1990s but the difference between the two is that in the ph-machine a permanent magnet is rotated diametrically inside a toroidal core, to create flux change in the toroid,  see this link: http://alexfrolov.narod.ru/ph-machine.htm   So a measured overunity is claimed...   

I would be very curious to know whatever happened to this design since then and other people have managed to replicate it and confirm overunity since then??  Maybe Stefan could comment here?

Thanks,  Gyula