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Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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springfield

dup post sorry something broken in website editor prvew thing

LarryC

@aether22!

Just remembered this morning. My first test didn't work with the 1/4 " wheel wobble and was very disappointed. Amazing how you forget after the excitement of acceleration. When I was able to adjust it to 1/8" and was able to move coil closer, then I got acceleration. It must be a requirement with our less sensitive motor/controller combination.

Good Luck,
Larry


markzpeiverson

Quote from: aether22 on May 14, 2008, 07:11:18 AM

One thing though, do you always have meters so far away because if they are closer things get screwy, or is it just how you prefer to work or for clarity of demo?


@aether22:
I think he puts the meters so far away so he and the meters don't get hit with flying debris!
Thanesian Evolution:  the distant are more likely to survive to reproduce...
:D
-MI
We dance round in a ring,
And suppose...
But the Secret Sits in the middle,
And knows.    --R.Frost

aether22

Quote from: springfield on May 14, 2008, 09:44:03 AM
@aether, I'm not followign this sorry. I thought that if any coil is shorted its voltage must always be zero (if its a prefect short of course) - even though the coil itself isn't "perfect" (meanign it has resistance and reactance). What's that other kind of voltage thats not zero? Is it to do with the aether flow?

No, voltage generally refers to potential difference, a charge imbalance.
However if this is our ONLY definition of voltage then we have a problem because electrical power only exists if we count voltage and current, you can not calculate power (or energy) with just current.

And there is voltage in a shorted coil however unmeasurible, and the power in say a shorted coil with 1 amp flowing can only be known by solving ohms law, and as we can not directly measure voltage we must know the resistance and the current, a super conductive coil, or a copper coil or a nicrome shorted coil all with one amp flowing all have very different levels of electrical energy and that difference is voltage only in an unmeasured form or if you like a 'potential' form since unless you increase resistance at one point it isn't conventionally measurible.

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IS there the same effect in the bi-torroid transformer? Can you send me link to get info about all this, sorry to bug you.
-Mike

I know of no link that mentions this.
But one point I would make is that 'electron volt' is used to measure the energy in an electron flying through space and it is a measure of speed not charge imbalance or pressure.

But at this point you will need to either think about it, research it, or just believe me. (or disbelieve me)
Because while I have no doubt that any 'sane' and knowledgible physicist or electrical engineer would agree I can't back up what i am saying other than by logic.

?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

aether22

Quote from: LarryC on May 14, 2008, 09:50:45 AM
@aether22!

Just remembered this morning. My first test didn't work with the 1/4 " wheel wobble and was very disappointed. Amazing how you forget after the excitement of acceleration. When I was able to adjust it to 1/8" and was able to move coil closer, then I got acceleration. It must be a requirement with our less sensitive motor/controller combination.

Good Luck,
Larry



That might be it.

I can't reduce the wobble as it is simply the shape of the rotor, but i can get the coil closer.
It had to be a bit distant because the rim of the wheel would cut the wire before the core would be as close as i could get.

I may however try to get the magnets sitting further out either by having a stack or replacing with a thicker magnet.

Also the size of the transforner cores may help reduce sensitivity to being too close. (plus as much as i dislike the wobble it did work for Thane and with fewer magnets, though my wobble is about 1/4 of an inch like your's)
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes