Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[OUman]

(re Nali's video):

- THERE IS ZERO ATTEMPT TO SHOW PRIME MOVE I/P
- NOR IS THERE ANY VERBAL AUDIO -
- AND THE SYSTEM APPEARS TO ACCELERATE BEFORE HE LIGHTS THE LIGHT
- AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT WORKS AS HE SAYS.

Thane

You have said on more than one occasion that it's a big mistake to measure the prime mover input - so why do you criticize Nali for not measuring it?

It's true that his acceleration slightly precedes the light. The system starts to accelerate, the voltage starts to rise, the filament starts to heat up, and then the light appears. In that order. That's normal, isn't it?

You don't believe it works as he says? Loading the generator causes the motor to accelerate. This is a replication of the effect you have observed, is it not? That's a good thing isn't it?

But counter to that last point, if he wanted to fake it, it's possible that he has it wired differently - for example, suppose that his light is connected directly to the coil and the switch is wired across the light so that in position (a) the coil is shorted (and so is the light, so it's "off"), so the coil presents maximum drag; while in position (b) the switch is open-circuit, allowing the coil to supply current to the light, and at the same time reducing the load and causing the motor to accelerate (standard Lenz). Impossible to tell. But it's impossible to tell from your own videos too - so absent other evidence, why not take his video at face value?

[aether22]

BUT THEN THAT'S JUST MY CONCLUSION - AND IT MY BE WRONG BUT AT LEAST I AM HONEST ENOUGH TO PUBLISH MY REAL NAME BEHIND MY WORK - WHICH IS THE REAL CLINCHER ON THE INTERNET WHERE EVERYTHING IS SUSPECT AND ONLY A FOOL WOULD BELIEVE OTHERWISE.

Thane

By the way, I might as well introduce myself.

I am on many email lists and make no secret of my name, but on here I'd have to sign my posts for anyone to know and I am simply not in the habit.

My name is John Berry, I'm Damn near 30.
I Live in Auckland New Zealand (Albany to be exact)

And I guess that's that.

[aether22]

I SENT JM SOME PHOTOS OF COILS FOR POSTING.

AETHER TRY SOMETHING FIRST - CAN YOU MAKE YOUR ROTOR A 6 POLE ROTOR BUT USING 3 MAGNETS TO MAKE 1 POLE i.e. NNN, SSS, NNN, SSS, NNN, SSS ? AND USE WASHERS TO GET THE SPACING RIGHT?

IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY THIS IS THE ONLY WAY I WAS ABLE TO GET ACCELERATION OUT OF A MOT IN MY EARLIER DAYS.

NOW ALSO TRY SOMETHING ELSE - LOOK AT MY GOOD MOT TRANSFORMER PAIR AND NOTE THE AMOUNT OF BACK IRON AND ASK YOURSELF IF THIS HAS ANY EFFECT ON STORING AETHER OR BUBBLE GUM OR WHATEVER?

Thane

I'll try the magnet thing and consider the 'back iron'.

I'll try and get the magnets a bit further out there.

But I am wondering if maybe the motor is either slightly too powerful (not to say I always feed it too much power) and or 240v 50hz designs have too many turns.
Because I should get more deceleration with the HC coils, although that would suggest also that maybe the magnets do not get close enough to the coil core either due to the recessed cups or wobble. (although it worked as is for Thane).   And no it's that the coils aren't close enough, actually rubbing slightly as it turns.

Thane, can you tell me what the maximum gap between the rotor magnets and stator should be? (the maximum that you think would still work)

[Nali2001]

Just some extra info on me sys.
The airgap is over 10mm or else the core will be cooking in no time.
And yes if your system barely manages 50watt at like 10volt then yes a 55watt car bulb will not light up in a flash.

And cuz ya'll so nice:
http://www.krystyna.nl/Machine/NormalNoLoad001.wmv

Regards,
Steven

[LarryC]

@All,

Below is a 123.6 Ohm coil wound in 37 minutes! Of course it took a half hour to set up the complete winding unit shown and I had parts from my first coil wind. 

On the top end is a tape covered nail, which is chucked into a hand drill. On the bottom end is a nail, which is inserted in any hole available.

On each side of the coil is a taped cardboard template to retain the wire. Tape is used to pull the cardboard back so the wire doesn't catch.

The taped squares between the nails and cardboard are wooden chucks fitted to hold each end of the flat bar metal core.

Doesn't it look like a tower!

Well, in honor of aether22's flying thingy, I want to name it 'THE TRIVIAL MUNDANE AETHER TOWER OF WINDING POWER'. 

Tried some test with my two HV coils, but need more adjustment before reporting.

Larry