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Overunity Machines Forum



Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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aether22

I agree with EMdevices statements.

Both the toroid not being what it was hoped (no I can't say this definitively but all signs are pointing that way, it doesn't support any real current) and the speeding up generator effect being very worthy of further investigation.

I would appreciate more complete details so as to replicate the generator effect.

Many things should and could be tested, one noteworthy test is to give a motor a constant load, say a prony break and then use the 'Back EMF' from another motor/gen setup into the prony brake motor not the one turning the generator.

This means that the loading on the motor and the frequency of the 'back EMF' can be independently changed.

You can also put a coil around the back EMF output (near where it enters the target motor when installed) and 'record' the intensity of the pulses and then recreate them with a pulsing coil to see if that can stand in for a rotating generator or not.

Finally is it possible that this effect applies to any other type of motor?
Or to any other magnetic device?

When the motor is running at a high efficiency can this still dramatically improve efficiency?

Addition:

It really is quite astounding that the'back EMF' magnetic field from an electromagnet (which is drawing I believe an unknown but possibly not awfully impressive current) can travel into a repelling Neo, through the spokes of a steel rotor (not a steel chosen by the manufactures to be highly permeable), through a steel shaft (ditto), spread out into a rotor and return through the air many feet to the back end of the generator coil while having the dramatic effects it has.

I probably don't have to tell you how improbable it is that any useful level of flux could be delivered to the motor to effect it in an as yet speculative way to increase power and decrease input.

When the above is compared to the measly looking results of putting some powerful Neo's right next to an induction motor's shaft the results are even more astounding.
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

RunningBare

Quote from: hartiberlin on February 20, 2008, 03:05:33 PM


It seems, he was only interested in your money...


Yeah, it's how he earns his living, I guess he should have been a charitable soul and pitched in for nothing huh?

Heinstein


"I would like to confirm what I quoted above: So in Test 2 all the coils are shorted except coil 2 and the speed just increased and already got stabilized,"


The speed did not stabilize - it was still increasing ? I lowered the input voltage to keep it within safe limits.

?now the unloaded coil 2 output is 177.7V and from now on you start loading coil 2 resistively towards 0 Ohm, the already increased speed starts increasing and gets even faster?

Not in the videos but YES in lab testing ? Speed increase is a function of load.
More load = more acceleration.


?while motor power consumption further decreases from the value it had when coil 2 was yet unloaded?  Please confirm this,  sorry for not fully understanding how you meant but these are important details.?

YES as the motor speed increases ? this slip angle between the rotor and stator decreases ? therefore the power consumption MUST go down accordingly.


Thane

Heinstein


"Yeah, it's how he earns his living, I guess he should have been a charitable soul and pitched in for nothing huh?"


You mean like Dr. Habash at Ottawa U who feels that it his duty as an educator and the duty of the university as a source of unbiased exploration and research?

Thane

aether22

I sent Thane a private message a few days ago, a portion of his reply was:

"The split phase motor has the same result if the rotor is placed on it as does my electric drill."

Thane, what kind of motor does your Electric drill use? (should I assume induction?)

Trying to see if my drillpress uses an induction or sychronous motor (It's not DC or universal that's for sure)
Otherwise going to cost me about $60 to pick a second hand one up.  short of taking the motor apart anyone know how to tell the difference? And no I don't have a tachometer.
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes