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Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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CRANKYpants

Quote from: i_ron on November 02, 2008, 10:15:58 PM
Thank you for the very informative DOC and VID. Nicely filmed sequence of building in the doc.

With Mr T's permission here is number five from the doc...

It gives us a  (hehehe, "US A"...) good look at the core structure but raises a question...

How many magnets, or better yet, what is the magnet spacing on the rotor? I presume NSNS,
so what I was getting at... has the N pole left the core before the S pole arrives?

Ron


THERE ARE ACTUALLY 3 CORES   &    CORE ALIGNMENT
1) LANINATED HC CORE                         -    SOUTH
2) AC MIG WELDING ROD CORE                - NORTH
3) LAMINATED HC CORE                            - SOUTH

THE CORES AND MAGNETS ARE ALIGNED SO AS TO CLOSE THE MAGNETIC CIRCUIT BETWEEN THE ROTOR POLES

NOW TO BE EVEN MORE PRECISE THE LOWER ROTOR POLE IS SKEWED SLIGHTLY (FALLS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BOTTOM CORE) TO REDUCE COGGING TORQUE.

THE 3 CORES ARE TIED TOGETHER AT THE BACK WITH A MOT TRANSFORMER TOP PLATE OFF AN "E" CORE.

T

i_ron

Quote from: CRANKYpants on November 03, 2008, 05:54:44 AM
THERE ARE ACTUALLY 3 CORES   &    CORE ALIGNMENT
1) LANINATED HC CORE                         -    SOUTH
2) AC MIG WELDING ROD CORE                - NORTH
3) LAMINATED HC CORE                            - SOUTH

THE CORES AND MAGNETS ARE ALIGNED SO AS TO CLOSE THE MAGNETIC CIRCUIT BETWEEN THE ROTOR POLES
snip

T

Thank you... so the pole spacing off the triple core matches the magnet spacing of the rotor?

Now you know this won't work!

Could it be that as the magnet approaches the top core the winding is only on the top surface and
the same polarity magnet that is approaching the bottom core has no winding on the side facing
the approaching magnet?  In concert then the two halves of the outer winding winding are acting as
one coil. Yes, that must be it, fascinating.

Ron

ps: disregarding the center pole for the moment...pic six is laid on its side, ie: magnet approach
from the side...




CRANKYpants


QuoteThank you... so the pole spacing off the triple core matches the magnet spacing of the rotor?

YES BUT AS I SAID PREVIOUSLY ONE OF THE "SOUTH POLE" MAGNETS FALLS IN BETWEEN THE MIG CORE AND THE LAMINATED CORE TO REDUCE COGGING TORGUE.

QuoteNow you know this won't work

DON'T TELL ANYONE OK?

QuoteCould it be that as the magnet approaches the top core the winding is only on the top surface and the same polarity magnet that is approaching the bottom core has no winding on the side facing
the approaching magnet?  In concert then the two halves of the outer winding winding are acting as
one coil. Yes, that must be it, fascinating.

Ron

YOUR LOGIC IS TWISTED TO ME BUT I THINK YOU GET IT.

I.E. SHOOT NORTH POLE FLUX INTO THE MIG CENTRE CORE AND IT COMES OUT THE TWO LAMINATED CORES BACK TO THE SOUTH POLES ON THE ROTOR.

THE MIG CORE IS NOT THE BEST CORE CHOICE AS IT OUGHT TO BE LAMINATED BUT I WANTED TO SEE HOW SMALL IT COULD BE.

T

i_ron

Quote from: i_ron on November 01, 2008, 05:24:49 PM
Far from being a negative person just because I prefer wine to beer, what I was suggesting was that if
you were to examine how the SYSTEM is set up to fail an endevour like yours, you would not so
naively approach the evil people at the head of the pyramid in anticipation of succor. snip


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP7Q_Q22on0&feature=related

Timely....

Ron

Kator01

Hi Thane,

may I draw your attention to reply #37 of user capthook for new ideas of winding coils here :

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5929.0


Regards

Kator01