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Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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Kator01

Hello Skywalker,

of course I agree. When the north approaches the elemental-magnets in the core begin to flip with south to the magnets northpole( alignement of spontaneous magnetisation) . This wave then spreads longitudinaly down  the length of the core to the far end.
What happens in the coil is that by the coil-reactance forward-current is rising slow ( back-emf). A fully shorted coil at the far side makes it even worse - my guess - because back-emf is stronger and thus counteracts in return. It simply makes the flipping of the elemental-magnets harder to happen. Then drag is experienced ( from the viewpoint of the magnet)  as a stronger force which must be spent in order to flip the elemental magents.

Now i think we have to split the process ( in our visualisation) in two or even three phases.
You have bear with me, but the scene is somehow appearing in this insant before my mental eye.

1) fast flipping of elemetal magnets( el-mag) near the gap at the front of the core ( thus attraction)
2) Longitudinal spread of permability ( magnetic viscosity) to the far left  end ( like a wave going to the left)
3) if permability-wave approaches the shorted coil then by the strong rising current and its back-emf a sudden counteraction occures in the core.
I could imagine that this counterforce is so strong that the longitudinal wave of flipping el-mags is reflected
near the shorted coil and in bouncing back towards the air-gap flips the el-mags backwards north facing the
north-pole of the magnet.
If the timing is correct it will hit at the moment the magnet is receding.

So we would be in need of small hall-sensors placed along the core ( better within) to monitor this process.

I really like this setup of yours. It is a good object for study. Hope I have not made it too complicated, but dynamics are.

Regards

Kator01




CRANKYpants

I DID A QUICK TEST WITH THE HC E COIL TODAY - HERE ARE SOME PICS.
LENZ DECELERATION WAS NOTED WITH AS LITTLE AS 0.5 WATTS OUT.

NEXT STEP IS TO REDUCE THE MIDDLE LEG SIZE AND INCREASE THE OUTER LEGS.

CHEERS
T

PS - FROM A FRIEND...

Thought of the Day
February 6, 2009

THE AVERAGE PERSON WOULD HAVE QUIT AT THE FIRST FAILURE.
THAT'S WHY THERE HAVE BEEN MANY AVERAGE MEN AND ONLY ONE EDISON.

Thomas Edison once observed that the reason most folks don't recognize opportunity when it comes knocking is that it is often dressed in coveralls and looks like work. Edison knew that anything worthwhile never comes easily; if it were easy, anyone could do it.
Because he persisted far beyond the point the average person would consider reasonable and rational, he produced inventions that even the most learned people of the day considered impossible. Great advances in knowledge are often achieved by people with an almost fanatical devotion to finding the solution to a problem. Flashes of inspiration alone are not enough to ensure success; they must be followed by determined, persistent action.
 

broli

Heins thanks for sharing that experiment. It would be indeed smart to continue on with different shapes and sizes untill you hit the nail.

Btw don't forget the dark side of Edison. For some as revolutionary as him he did a lot to make sure Tesla wouldn't succeed, that's being close minded and greedy imo.

Quote from: NikolaTeslaIf Edison had a needle to find in a haystack, he would proceed at once with the diligence of the bee to examine straw after straw until he found the object of his search... I was a sorry witness of such doings, knowing that a little theory and calculation would have saved him ninety per cent of his labor.


woopy

whaouuuuu¨!!!! :o

i really love simplicity

less coils +less magnets  +    more brain energy  =   more results    that's exactly what this world  needs      Heepee! ;D

go on man    go on

Laurent


CRANKYpants

Quote from: broli on February 06, 2009, 04:39:37 PM
Heins thanks for sharing that experiment. It would be indeed smart to continue on with different shapes and sizes untill you hit the nail.

Btw don't forget the dark side of Edison. For some as revolutionary as him he did a lot to make sure Tesla wouldn't succeed, that's being close minded and greedy imo.

I AM GUESSING THAT THE MIDDLE LEG CAN BE QUITE SMALL AND THE OUTER COILS VIRTUALLY ANY SIZE - IF THE MIDDLE ONE SATURATES. THIS IS A ROTATING VERSION OF THE BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER.

EDISON DID A LOT TO MAKE SURE HE AND HIS COMPANY SUCCEEDED, INCLUDING CRUSHING THE COMPETITION - WHICH IS WHAT FORD, CHRYSLER, CHEVROLET, AND EVERY OTHER COMAPNY DOES TO THIS DAY.

JOHN NASH (Nobel Laureate in Economics) PROVED MATHEMATICALLY THAT THIS BUSINESS MODEL IS UNSUSTAINABLE - THE ABOVE COMPANIES STILL CAN'T "GET IT".

T