Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[LarryC]

Well, if the configuration is what is supposed to produce acceleration in the engine and it works exactly the law of Lenz.

If your not doing this allready the Bike Tach can be set to read RPM's, just follow this article.
http://www.instructables.com/id/Tachometer-made-from-a-bicycle-speedometer-cycloc/

My unit wouldn't accelerate until around 500 RPM.

Regards, Larry

[adlep]

DEAR ADLEP,

YOU ARE GOING TO GET YOUR WISH - BUT NOT FROM ME.

THE PROTOTYPE I AM CURRENTLY BUILDING IS A 4 COIL UNIT WHICH WILL BE RUN UP TO FULL SPEED AND MAY OR MAY NOT GO BEYOND THE 3600 MAX SPEED RATING OF THE MOTOR - WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE ABOUT THAT. I AM BUILDING A 1/2 INCH BULLET PROOF LEXAN CASE FOR TESTING JUST IN CASE IT WANTS TO PULL A "GOTOLUC - EXPLODING NEO SHITSTORM".

IT IS HOWEVER, INTENDED TO PRODUCE MORE POWER (ACROSS A LOAD - HOPEFULLY 40 - 50 WATTS/COIL @ 200 WATTS)
THAN WHAT THE MOTOR WILL BE CONSUMING AT CLOSE TO ZERO SLIP @ 90 WATTS OR LESS..

THEY PEOPLE WHO ARE GETTING IT WILL THEN RECTIFY THE OUTPUT, FEED IT INTO A BATTERY AND THEN RECTIFY IT AGAIN BACK TO 60 HZ AC AND TRY TO SELF RUN THE SYSTEM. THEY ALSO WANT TO USE A DC MOTOR AS WELL I THINK.

SO ALMOST EVERYBODY WILL BE SATISFIED SOON I HOPE? 

CHEERS
T

Fantastic news Thane. I am no expert so it is very nice to learn that someone is going to apply a similar idea to mine in order to test your solution. As always good luck with everything and keep us updated. 

[i_ron]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7EouRfGvN4

Yes aTg, a word or two of explanation is always helpful.

The description could have read, "HC coil shown in action"

Now if you had more turns (over a 100 ohms) and more voltage (550 volts?) and possibly
just a bit more RPM, then this might be a more valid test of a thane coil.

edit: "Well, if the configuration is what is supposed to produce acceleration in the engine and it
works exactly the law of Lenz."

But you show an HC coil in the vid... not an HV coil?

Nevertheless, good work... thanks for sharing, keep on

Ron

PS: be careful measuring at the over one hundred volt level... it can give you a nasty shock!!!!
When you are at this level take precautions, "keep one hand in the pocket is a good rule"
One can survive a shock between the fingers or up your arm... but a shock between your hands
that crosses the chest can stop the ticker....

http://www.altair.org/hazard.html


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[hoptoad]

First off I was just doing a "loose comparison" for the sake of explanation by doing a google of a standard gas generator to get a rough 4400 watts for 6.5 hp.

Second. we have to look at how 746 watts equals 1 horsepower and how it was derived.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/horsepower.htm
" It is that arbitrary unit of measure that has made its way down through the centuries and now appears on your car, your lawn mower, your chain saw and even in some cases your vacuum cleaner."

So we have "horse power" as an arbitrary unit. So what if we have a "super horse" that could generate 4400 watts of energy instead of 746 watts. A horse on  steroids. Seems to happen to athletic players all the time.    Now you have a horse on steriods that can change that "arbitrary unit " definition of "746 watts equals 1 horsepower" to a higher value. Does that mean OU. No. It means you have a better horse.

That's right, a horespower is simply an arbitrary unit of measurement. You can change your definition of horespower as much as you like, but in the words of shakespeare, a rose by any other name is a rose just the same. Just by changing your unit of measurement doesn't mean you have more or less of an actual mass or amount of energy. Just a different unit of measurement. A horespower doesn't literally refer to a horse, it refers to a specific amount of power required, to do a specific amount of work, over a specific duration of time.

Cheers

[wattsup]

My last post on this thread.
Sorry if it is long.

@woopy

if you think that Thane is simply a faker

I never used that word or inferred any such thing. My use of the word "shyster" was not to imply anything categorical but that the whole method of providing information and steering away from the most important issue gives one the impression of. It's just natural for anyone to think this way because of the way the information is given.

@markzpeiverson

PS:@wattsup, if you'd look at a number of the videos, you'll see that Thane has used an AC analyzer on many occasions.  This instrument shows input voltage, current, PF (power factor), and watts. Since you fail to mention PF as a requirement for your desire to see power in, power out data, perhaps you should do a little more homework before jumping down Thanes throat...

Many guys here know that I have a bad habit of being pretty exhaustive when I decide to investigate something. Before I asked anything to @CP of which nothing was answered by the way (just a "that's sick" response), I did exactly that. I went through ALL the videos, took a good part of one whole night. Do I have to make a video by video critique. There are some places were we see a 4.? amps but no volts, most everywhere we see volts but no amps, then we see output volts but no amps and where we do see amps/volts it is under no load. None of the videos left you with a concrete knowledge that there is any OU happening (or not) and most of the motor speed effects can be accomplished with capacitors, switches and coils to make a motor accelerate under "no load" by recapturing the flyback. I could put a furty coil on an accelerating motor magnet that will quickly give me 300 volts, then say the motor is using 200 watts and the generator is making 300 volts. Is that OU. I does not mean it is OU or even that it is not OU. That means nothing.

Look I am not saying @CP is a bad guy. He's on the contrary a real good guy that has done a shit load of work and I am only very impressed at his set-ups. But I have seen many guys like him wanting to believe in their way. But I find it extremely sad that through all these videos that one would have to wade through one by one, the switching sequences are very confusing, there are wires all over the place that could be used for so many other things, that no one in their right mind can come out of it with a CLEAR understanding of both the phenomenon that he is trying to explain and the potential OU coming from it. Most all his tests were on no coil loads, nothing visible to the naked eye like a bank of light bulbs, etc. Seems more like a pile of hyper-confusion and this is the main quandary that if cleared up, would be beneficial to many, especially to @CP himself.

Example of his PEREPITEIA GENERATOR DEMO VIDEO - Part 5 - which came close, we can finally understand something and hope to hear some real numbers but then at 6:09 he says coil2 is producing 257 volts and the drive motor is using 235 watts. So what about the Generator amps. Again nothing. No mention as if it is normal to compare drive motor watts to generator volts and expect people to come to a knowledgeable conclusion. It means NOTHING. I could do that with my eyes closed and this is the main problem.

Example in the PART 1 PEREPITEIA DEMO VIDEO OTTAWA UNIVERSITY MAY 2008 video he shows the prime mover turning the magwheel over two series connected HV and HC coils. At no load the motors turns at X rpm then he connects a small bulb onto the HC coil and the motor starts losing rpm. He disconnects the bulb on the HC coil and connects the Leds on the HV coils and the motor rpm increases. He then connects the bulb back to the HC coil and the motor still increases. Great. BUT this is not OU, far from it and again means nothing. He then generalizes that the HV coil increases rpm while the HC coil is loaded with the bulb. Yes but he was consuming all along at least 220 watts on the drive motor and there was never 220 watts of light emitted by all the lights. So why don't you then add another 2 or 3 bulbs onto the HC coil while the HV is also on and see what happens. This was not done. Too bad because this is what we want to know. With 220 watts of power you can have a lot of leeway. When the HV coil increases, it is only because the HC coil is loaded with a furty little bulb that is not that bright. So where is the magic. There is none. This is again standard things that anyone that has played with motors, gears, capacitors, generators, flyback switches and the others like the RV guys have seen.

What creates greater stall, putting a drag of 1 onto a generator that is directly in line with the prime mover or putting a drag of 1 onto a prime mover that has a 1 foot diameter wheel and the generator is at the edge of the wheel. Figure it out.

I don't really care how the motor is driven in its many potential ways. What interests me is the final result. Put the unit on an isolated table and remove all those wires and connect directly, drive the thing to its optimum, however it is, measure input volts and amps (all the inputted volts and amps means the energy used in the drive motor and if outside energy was also used in one of the coils), put a real load like a bank of 100 watt light bulbs on the generator and measure volts and amps. That's all we need to know and this has not been done. Yes it has been done is so many "indirect" ways, with HV, with HC, without HV, without HC but as of now, none of those videos could truly imply any form of OU or not. Reactive power, ever hear of that. You can fool a meter but you can't fool a light bulb.

Now take all this unknown and put it beside a cockamamie offer of licensing. Licensing what? An OU unit, an almost OU unit or a far from OU unit. We don't know. This is the first time in my business career that I have seen someone license an unknown. Usually, someone comes up with a device that has a concrete use and operation and performance and then he can license it to interested manufacturers. But in this case, there is NOTHING. I recommend you consider the legal ramifications of such an offering and maybe you will really reconsider that post.

Anyways, take what you want. I will not post here anymore because it is obvious that any form of critique is not welcome. I have better ways to use my time. So have it your way and enjoy the ride. I will only say that the post I referred to earlier should be removed and if @CP does not do it willingly then it will be up to @Stefan to decide, but regardless, people should realize that the post in question is not endorsed by the Overunity.com Forum and/or its members.

So you guys figure it out yourselves.

Added:
This guy has something to teach that you may learn from and use here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmLGm_ayqio&feature=channel