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Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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SkyWatcher123

Oh by the way, what did anyone think of my ideas on what the cause of the speed up effect may be.

hydrocontrol

Quote from: CRANKYpants on April 10, 2009, 07:21:51 PM

HEY HYDRO-CONTROL IS THE NAME AND HE IS ALL ABOUT CONTROL  ;)

CHEERS
AND HAPPY EASTER TO ALL!

T
Thane,
Well I could just be a DAMN OPERATOR....   Like HYDRO... Like DAM... ;)  I guess that could be considered a form of control.. The floodgates are opening.... The floodgates are closing....

Thane...Happy Easter.. Careful with that gravy...

Skywatcher..  Well... somebody did try to break into Thane's workshop...  and you have those MIB visiting Mylow.. LOL... ;D
Actually I was more referring to the amount of 'noise' generated by some forum members about anything that hints at Overunity which is funny since this is an Overunity forum.. :-\. You figure if the thought of OU  bothers some people so much why do they hang out here..  ???  Lately Thane's thread has been fairly silent so I figured the "sharks" went away. Of course they are still around and were circling Mylow...  :P Now that Mylow has been effectively been eaten I think they will look at other threads that show signs of life. Now that Thane has stated he is going for a self-runner that opens up the floodgates again so it could be another 100 pages of flames and name calling.  :(.. I was just getting use to the video updates of Thane's progress and the replications...  I have started rereading this thread and am taking notes of useful information.. This thread could be condensed into thirty pages of useful information if you eliminate all the "noise".. That continuing "noise" is really what I was fearful of with Thane's proclamation.. ;D

SkyWatcher123

Hi Hydrocontrol, thanks for clearing that up, well call it water engineer, hehe. Somehow I think things will be different from now on, but remember no fear. So what do you think of my ideas of how the effect may be working in Thanes device.

hydrocontrol

Quote from: SkyWatcher123 on April 09, 2009, 09:03:56 PM
My thoughts on possible function was that as the current rise time of a coil is matched to a particular rotor magnet strength that when the proper rotor speed is attained the current build up is delayed until top dead center or after then gives a quick repulsive kick to magnet due to current rise timed not to buck the incoming magnet and when same magnet is departing again current is delayed in other direction until magnet is a distance from core and then current rises after delay and either doesn't effect magnet as much to pull it back via lentz and or field collapses and repulsively kicks it again. Anyway whatever the effects function im seeing it with all same polarities so it appears nn ss nn ss is one way to skin a cat among others.
peace love light    :)
This "delay" concept is what I had been kicking around in my head as well. It does not violate Lenz's Law but uses the effect of the speed of electricity to use Lenz's for your benefit..
"Lenz's Law states that the magnetic field of any induced current opposes the change that induces it."
So as a magnet approaches a coil the magnetic field that forms in the coil is opposite of the approaching magnet and wants to push the approaching magnet back. The closer the magnet gets to the coil the larger the field forms in the coil so the larger the push back of the approaching magnet. Makes sense.
Now the "What if"
What if you could delay that formed magnetic field in the coil until the magnet is top dead center (TDC) over the coil. Well it would push back the approaching magnet at the very time the magnet is exiting so the "push" is in the "correct" direction of rotation. Thus we have a speed (RPM) increase only when we get to a certain starting RPM. If you allow the magnetic field to form in the coil at too slow of an RPM it creates the field before TDC and pushes the approaching magnet back. Once you get to the "magic" starting RPM the field forms at TDC and pushes the magnet along the route of rotation instead of back.

Now the "Why"
So why is it when Thane shorts more coils the RPM keeps going up. Shorting the coil allows the magnetic field to form in the coil. In Thane's setup the coils are exactly over all the magnets at the same time so we have an accumulative effect. The effect is like adding another team of horses to the cart. You get more push. At some point you get a limited rate of return which means that adding more horses get you nothing more except a higher feed bill. In Thane's case the RPM will reach a maximum level after adding X number of coils. After adding X+1 then the RPM will remain the same as X or the same as X+2. The reason is that the coil field will only become a certain size and the RPM speed of the magnet will cause the TDC to be way past TDC and therefore will not have any useful effect on pushing the rotor magnet.

Now the "How".
Electricity travels at the speed of light. The longer the path the longer it takes. This is very apparent if you call your friend on the cell phone who is standing next to you. You get that "delay" effect of speech. The same thing is happening in Thane's coils. The more turns of finer gauge wire on the coil the longer it takes for the magnetic field to form. Delay the magnetic field enough and it forms at TDC to help push the rotor magnet. Delay the field too much and it forms way past TDC and does not give you a push..

Some more "What if"
What if you made a coil that is "elliptical. ?  The TDC might form in a larger range and you might get the best of both worlds of a higher RPM and more usable power output.. ;) You also might try Air Coils after the Cored coils to pick up more power. So many variables to try.


samedsoft

CALL FOR MASSIVE REPLICATION

Dear ALL,

   It is time to act and help out Thane via replicating his work and presenting on Youtube to MIB's.

   I am trying to get in touch with Turkish and Canadian Energy Ministers to support Thane's work.

   Today I have to disclose one secret of mine.

   ON 2004 CIA OFFICIALS OFFERED ME TO WORK FOR THEM WHEN I WAS IN BUFFALO, NY.

   BUT TODAY THEY WONT LET ME TO VISIT CANADA... WHY????

   THIS IS TOTALLY BLOCKAGE !!! WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE FACT.

   AMERICAN DEEP GOVERNMENT DOES NOT WANT MAGNETIC ENERGY CONVERSION SYSTEMS (MECS) TO BE REVEALED.

   THEY STUPIDLY DENIED MY VISA APPLICATION TO VISIT CANADA! BECAUSE I TRIED TO VISIT HIM.

   WE HAVE TO ACT ASAP. LET IT REPLICATED AND LET THANE FREE OF MIB'S..

   LET OBAMA'S, CHUKANOV'S, HEINS', TEMURLENK'S DREAM COME TRUE!
   
   LET HUMANITY BECOME UNITY!

   Nuri Temurlenk, Turkey
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