Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[wattsup]

In his last video, if I remember correctly the one coil that was on the bulb was producing 34 watts.

But here is what has puzzled me for a very long while. If I was designing a new type of magnet rotor and coil arrangement, the first thing I would want to know is what is the maximum juice I could get from them coils regardless of the input wattage. So I would take a 5 or 10 hp motor offering much more torque then that grinder motor, turn the thing and apply the maximum load I could put on those coils measuring the wattage out.

This would first confirm a host of things I would never know by sticking with my grinder motor. So imagine after such a test that each coil could provide 340 watts, or imagine after all that hoopla that the each coil could still only provide 48 watts each. This test could answer so many questions you would NEED TO KNOW to better understand the coils parameters to then better continue the overall effort.

So let's say the outcome was each coil produces 180 watts at xxxx rpm. Now at least you know the maximums and then working with a grinder motor, rpm increase, coils loaded, etc., you can confidently work it and work it and work it to maximize the output because you have confirmed the coils can produce this while working on the other end to minimize the input.

But if the final outcome was only 38 watts from each coil (that's only 4 watts more then on the grinder motor), then at least you know from the start that the coils have this as a maximum and it may be better to consider either optimizing the coil design NOW instead of spending countless more hours trying to then make something that is impossible to do to begin with, with those coils.

This should be standard practice in such motor schemes to not waste loads (pun intended) of time. Design a coil, test it with maximum HP motor. Understand the parameters, then apply it to the Perepetia.

Right now, I feel for many months it is like testing poles made for 20 foot pole vaulting by only jumping five feet. Please do not take this as a criticism, It is only my "opinion".

Also in terms of producing more amplitude and less voltage, I am convinced the magnets should not be all around the wheel. You would be better off splitting the magnets in two rotors with magnets at every second position on each turning on the outer end of centrally placed pick-up coils. This way the fields go down to zero after each magnet pass and hits the coil hard at each contact and pass. By placing each rotor so they turn in succession from one side, then the other, then back to the other, you get continuous magnet passage plus full zero out of the field for greater re-entry impact.

Anyways, although I may have had some divergence with Thane, I have always considered him to be a great doer. My brother lives in Ottawa and does a lot of office machine repair work for all the Government Agencies as well as the Universities. Maybe I should ask him to stop in there one day to see if his equipment is still there or not. I just have this funny feeling that things did not pan out the way he wanted because of many of the issues I had raised in the past. You see I have been through such an adventure myself so I know what can happen when the anvil falls. I sincerely hope i am wrong but reality has a way of catching up with them loose ends.

[baroutologos]

@ watt'sup

Hello,

the constructive critique is a good thing, but it is not to remain in theorizing. if you feel to, and believe in peripeteia as a working device, then join the effort of replication.

Replication IMO should not be made in a blind copy cat basis. You could put your best at exploring Perepiteia in high speed, high torque rotor schemes without considering much the input, just to clarify some things.

On the other hand, i plan to employ perepiteia in very low torque, pulse motor scheme to firmly confirm myself if the accelaration effect is adding mechanical energy to the rotor etc

Then, here, we can combine knowledge and take the device 10 steps further than Thane could possibly do him alone.

Of course, this is my oppinion, but after that's the reason forums as this one are supposed to exist for.

Regards,
Baroutologos

[petersone]

Hi Wattsup
i think you are right in the "less is more" no point in having a mag. coming in when the last one has not finished it's job,I tried a Little setup with 2 mags.,it worked ok,so,tried it with 8 mags.it was not as good.
peter

[Pageygeeza]

My set-up could consist of 200 mags, (if I could afford it.)  Each mag would have an additional effect.

[petersone]

Hi Pageygeeza
IMHO you can have as many as you like,as long as one has finished it's job before the next one starts,other wise you will get to the point of all most no flux change.So it depends on the size of the rotor,more mags,more rotors,or bigger rotor.
Just my take.But I am willing to be corrected.
peter