Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[PulsedPower]

@Aether22

The first test that might be tried could be to take an electric motor, preferably a universal motor powered by AC, limit the current so that it will not exceed it's maximum rating and without letting it rotate measure it's torque, then measure it when being fed back emf from a generator, if it works when it's rotating (and it does according to thanes test with the drill) it ought to work when it's not.  Then try it on DC, if it still works being fed DC then you can rule hysteresis out as a sole effect though it might well be worth seeing if the back-emf flux has an effect on hysteresis.

It might work but there are better ways. Build Thanes apparatus if that is where you want to go measure any flux in the motor shaft. Remove the magnet assembly and attach a dynamometer, using a coil placed around the shaft recreate the same flux, while holding constant speed measure the torque on the dynamometer,  measure watts in calculate watts out, repeat for a range of speeds and shaft fluxes.  This is quantifying the effect that the magnet assembly has on the motor without all the aditional effects it has.. A universal motor is different to an induction motor, why change motor types before the induction motor is researched better.  If this is inconclusive, reverse the experiment using just the magnet asembly driven by a small hydraulic motor or a shielded electric motor.  Most of this can be built with junkyard material.

[innovation_station]

@ Thane

in this video here  am i playing with one of those hidden batteryies?!?!?!?   you speek of?

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[nightlife]

innovation_station, how many amps of the 140 volts did the capasitor have?

Why haven't you utilized that concept?

Am I missing something?

[rukiddingme]

@ innovation_station,

In the last drawing, I'm not sure you need the two wheels in the center.
Can't you just use one wheel with one array of magnets?

[aether22]

Thane, have you tried a single coil on the inside of the wheel, the side the motor is on. (so the action end of the coil is pointing away from the motor)

Were the results similar to it being on the other side?

I ask because if it is about as effective then it will be an easier setup, I won't need to raise the bench grinder or the coil above the table surface, I can just run the wheel over the edge of the table.

This will make things decidedly easier.

Thanks.