Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[aether22]

Hey Thane, so I can get up and running ASAP when it arrives let's see if I can sort out everything I'll need.

So you are sending a rotor with magnets on it on an axle, that much is pretty clear.
And I guess/hope some coupler made of probably PVC? With or without the steel shaft piece making the effect occur?  (or is it just a straight connection to the motor making that comparison impossible?)

I guess I need to add (a pair of?) bearings to the shaft (and stand) to hold it in place, then just place my stator coil/s around the rotor and go?

If you have not sent anything to couple the motor to the generator then I would appreciate plans for what you have previously used, I think you mentioned your first coupler was PVC.

Basically if you can detail anything I might need to buy or build that I can do before it arrives that would be appreciated.

Also do you know how great the gap between steel shaft pieces can be before the effect goes away? Is light touching strongly encouraged or is a very tiny sub millimeter gap Ok?

Very excited about the experiments that this effect practically demands be done.

[vince]

Hi Thane;

I wanted to ask you a question about your motor setup. I have been playing with my motor and magnets since this thread started,and with several different load coils the motor always showed an increase in speed with no extra current draw.  The part that is strange is that when I place any kind of laminated core (WITHOUT WINDINGS) near the rotating magnets the motor speeds up to its maximum speed almost immediately and does not draw any more amps. This also happens to a lesser degree with just any steel placed close to the magnets although the greatest effect is with laminations. It seems that my motor speeds with just the metal present.  I am using an air core coil as you suggested for rpm monitoring and it definitely increases the speed.  In fact, I just had an accident where the rotor went too fast and I lost several magnets.  Close call with just a cut finger.  My question is; Do you see the same effect with just the iron close to rotor?

Just Curious
Vince.

[OilBarren]

Hi Thane;

I wanted to ask you a question about your motor setup. I have been playing with my motor and magnets since this thread started,and with several different load coils the motor always showed an increase in speed with no extra current draw.  The part that is strange is that when I place any kind of laminated core (WITHOUT WINDINGS) near the rotating magnets the motor speeds up to its maximum speed almost immediately and does not draw any more amps. This also happens to a lesser degree with just any steel placed close to the magnets although the greatest effect is with laminations. It seems that my motor speeds with just the metal present.  I am using an air core coil as you suggested for rpm monitoring and it definitely increases the speed.  In fact, I just had an accident where the rotor went too fast and I lost several magnets.  Close call with just a cut finger.  My question is; Do you see the same effect with just the iron close to rotor?

Just Curious
Vince.

VERY STRANGE - YOUR STEEL SHOULD BE CONTRIBUTING TO SOME HYSTERISIS DRAG?
WE NEED PICTURES OR DRAWINGS?
I WONDER IF YOU ARE REDUCING THE COGGING TORQUE?
IS THERE MORE THAN ONE IRON CORE IN PLAY HERE?
ARE YOUR CORES CLOSE TO THE MOTOR OR ROTOR?
HOW ARE YOU CONTROLLING THE MOTOR SPEED?

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION NO - FOR ME PLACING STEEL OR LAMINATED MATERIAL NEAR THE MAGNETIC ROTOR SLOWS DOWN THE MOTOR - IN FACT I USED IT TO CONTROL SPEED IN MY 1ST PROTOTYPE.

Thane

[vince]

Thane;

I removed all my coils and was going to replace them with a new laminated core with heavier windings. I made the core out of light steel strips used for holding brick to a wall in construction. They are approximately 1" by 6" by 22 gauge and stacked together about 1" thick. Before I wound them with wire I bolted them together (they have predrilled holes) and mounted it in a support with the end facing the rotor magnets just like the coils with no winding. The motor rpm definitely went to maximum (from Minimum )when I brought it close to the rotor magnets. I am controlling the motor speed with a fan speed control and it was set at minimum setting drawing 1.2 amps on the motor feed. When the motor is set to full speed on the control it draws 2.4 amps. After the motor speeds up with just the laminations it still only draws 1.2 amps. I check the motor speed with an air core coil and watch the volts. I had a  reading at low and high  speeds and can monitor rpm  in this way. I  repeated this with the laminations from an old transformer that I had cut open. Again, holding it (BY HAND) close to the spinning magnets the motor speed increased.  I will have to get some new magnets and take some pictures to show you but I thought it was odd to see this happening.

Regards
Vince

[OilBarren]

Thane;

I removed all my coils and was going to replace them with a new laminated core with heavier windings. I made the core out of light steel strips used for holding brick to a wall in construction. They are approximately 1" by 6" by 22 gauge and stacked together about 1" thick. Before I wound them with wire I bolted them together (they have predrilled holes) and mounted it in a support with the end facing the rotor magnets just like the coils with no winding. The motor rpm definitely went to maximum (from Minimum )when I brought it close to the rotor magnets. I am controlling the motor speed with a fan speed control and it was set at minimum setting drawing 1.2 amps on the motor feed. When the motor is set to full speed on the control it draws 2.4 amps. After the motor speeds up with just the laminations it still only draws 1.2 amps. I check the motor speed with an air core coil and watch the volts. I had a  reading at low and high  speeds and can monitor rpm  in this way. I  repeated this with the laminations from an old transformer that I had cut open. Again, holding it (BY HAND) close to the spinning magnets the motor speed increased.  I will have to get some new magnets and take some pictures to show you but I thought it was odd to see this happening.

Regards
Vince

YOU ARE HOLDING IT BY HAND - SO WHERE ARE YOU PLUGGED IN?

Thane