Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[LarryC]

@A22,

Well, I hit the brutal acceleration spot today. It is just a matter of reaching that sweet spot, where the motor is straining very hard against a heavy load and then released by the coil shorting. The setup follows:

1. Six 1/8 cupped neo plus 1/4 neos on top.

2. Two HV coils with 1" cores.

3. Air gap with 1/8" wobble was 3/16" to 5/16"

4. Motor running at 670 rpm's using 173 watts. Almost full voltage thru variac.

5. Shorted coils and rpm's rapidly accelerated to 1840!


Tending to agree with i_ron:

Much of the Thane effect can be attributed to the
hysteresis brake effect but there are just enough anomalies to be of special interest, the old, "but
what if he is right" trip.

@Mark,

I normally record most of the stats that you stated. I originally posted them here when I first started getting results. Now, I only post them when there is a significant change. I'm sure most other testers are doing the same.


Regards, Larry

[aether22]

I'm not here to read your post naturally, but if brutal acceleration comes from brutal braking that's not an awfully positive sign, we know shorted coils can reduce losses (or should anomalies aside) and so it sounds like a partly conventional effect.

But Thane didn't get acceleration with an isolated shaft, he has accelerated beyond braking and Aspden has shown anomalous eddy current energy so there is something real here for sure but it might be a good idea to only look at experiments that eliminate any possible conventional explanation (artifact) otherwise this research is going to be mired with valid objections that are going to only be subjectively defended against without exceedingly careful measurements none of us are up to making. (such as Aspden's figuring out how much eddy current is expected and what is beyond expectation)

So again when I 'come back' on Monday I will focus on (and I am encouraging all experimenters to join me):

Impossible amplifier (something that increases the effect that has no possible conventional explanation)

Impossible reducer (something that decreases or eliminates but has no conventional explanation, such as shaft isolation)

Measurement of effect at motor. (Vine's test, or torque sensor, though at $3,000 new you way want to rent, sadly there are people who put more into their car stereos than many FE researchers have to spend on their work, backwards world!)

Delivery of effect into surrogate device. (another motor for instance)

And not on my 'to do' list currently unless Thane lays new info on me but very valid:
Acceleration beyond speed attained with absent stator.

Anything else would be a waste of electrons!

[Mr.Entropy]

Anything else would be a waste of electrons!

You might want to check for the Aspden effect (not that I believe in the Aspden effect, mind you :-).  Turn it on with shorted coils, turn it off, let it run down, wait, turn it on, and see if the wait time has any effect on how long it takes the rotor to get up to some predefined speed, like 75% of max RPM.

[adlep]

Hello Folks...
I am not an expert on this subject at all...
But here is my question:
Is there any way the "T's Effect" comes from Neo Permanent Magnets?
I know that this idea is not really popular, but I consider permanent magnets to be a medium of storing energy, just like a battery is....

Consider this:

Electromagnet is a type of magnet in which the magnetic field is produced by the flow of an electric current (for example from a battery). The magnetic field disappears when the current ceases.

But is it possible to "reverse" the process somehow?

If you have a strong permanent magnet, is it possible to force the electrons to flow from the permanent magnet back to the battery and hence recharge it?
Currently it is impossible
But maybe Thane's device/configuration does just that...?

[CRANKYpants]

You might want to check for the Aspden effect (not that I believe in the Aspden effect, mind you :-).  Turn it on with shorted coils, turn it off, let it run down, wait, turn it on, and see if the wait time has any effect on how long it takes the rotor to get up to some predefined speed, like 75% of max RPM.

I DID THIS TEST QUITE A WHILE AGO DUE TO PROMPTING FROM A22...

DECELERATION 2000 - 470 RPM (BELOW 470 HC AND HV COILS BOTH COILS ACT AS BRAKES)

COIL ENGAGED          TIME
HC COILS ONLY            13 seconds
HC COILS & HV COILS   32 sesonds
HV COILS ONLY             42 seconds
NO COILS                       52 seconds
NO CORES                     158 seconds
If someone else could redo these tests it would be great - I may have got these numbers inverted?

IN ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO RESPECTFULLY SMACK-DOWN I_RECK ONCE AND FOR ALL - YESTERDAY I WOUND HV COILS ON TOP OF THE HC COILS ON THE SAME CORE - SO NOW THERE IS NO EXTRA CORE LOSSES TO LOWER THE OUTPUT.

I GOT 1.8 WATTS WITH JUST THE HC COILS AND 10.4 WATTS (AND MORE AS ACCELERATION WAS CONTINUING) FROM THE HC COILS w/ HV COILS ENGAGED THROUGH A 10 OHM LOAD. HC COIL O/P DROPPED SLIGHTLY WHEN THE HV COIL WAS SHORTED BUT IT CAME BACK WITH MORE ONCE ACCELERATION KICKED IN.

BTW - I WAS USING AN OLD DIESEL ENGINE OUT OF A 1982 VW AS MY PRIME MOVER - RUNNING A GENERATOR WHICH WAS 10 KM FROM THE LAB - TO RUN MY INDUCTION MOTOR SO MY EFFICIENCY IS 0.00003 % - IN CASE ANYOUNE WANTS TO KNOW.

THANE