Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[hydrocontrol]

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For the people that doesn't agree with thane when he said that his *generator* is OU,  you forgot one thing: the shaft is turning. We can extract more energy with a conventional generator, or with thane generator.

But is the "world" ready for OU...    I still think hooking up a Thane's generator to  a windmill would "look" more acceptable to the general populace even if it is turning twice as fast as the wind.    Everyone would jump on the "renewable energy" bandwagon and I might even get a tax deduction for a OU "renewable energy" windmill in my backyard. A windmill producing power is a lot easier to explain than the OU generator in the basement. I can now see why the "wind turbine" industry wants the technology. A wind turbine is perfect disguise for generating power that gets tax breaks and promotes "renewable energy" while at the same time it produces more power than it would normally. What a brillant plan.. They get the tax money. They get the money for selling kilowatts. They get the "green" stamp from the populace. A Win-win for them.

[i_ron]

IDEALLY YOU SHOULD HAVE 18 COILS ALL STAGGERED CORRECTLY.

T

Using mot cores with a drag of 52 watts per core then 18 would require 936 watts to run... a bit dicey
for the Ryobi wot? Same thing with doubling the strength of your magnets in CA... it wouldn't run, right? But had you worked from a baseline then this could have been foreseen.

If you would, do this test for the group then... what is the core drag for one leg of a mot, three legs
of a mot, one leg of the new material, three legs of the new material?

Ron

[CRANKYpants]

Be serious for a minute, run the rotor only up to a given voltage, record the amps and the RPM,
this is your baseline.

Ron

NOPE SORRY - YOU CAN'T CHANGE PARAMETERS MID STREAM AND SAY YOU DIDN'T.

UNLESS YOU ARE BUILDING AN AIR CORE GENERATOR - THEN GO AHEAD - BUT SINCE YOU ARE NOT THEN YOU CAN'T DO IT WITH ANY EXPERIMENTAL VALIDITY.

BUILD YOUR GENERATOR WITH COILS AND CORES AND TEST THE GENERATOR'S REACTION TO LOADING.

DECELERATION = LENZ LIVES
ACCELERATION = DEAD LENZ

IF LENZ IS DEAD THEN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE IT USEFUL, THEN BETTER, AND BETTER ETC.

HAVE FUN AND IGNORE EVERYONE ALL THE TIME!
UNLESS OF COURSE YOU ARE MARRIED TO THEM AND THEY ARE NAKED.

T

Same thing with doubling the strength of your magnets in CA... it wouldn't run, right? But had you worked from a baseline then this could have been foreseen.

WRONG AGAIN MY_OBI_RON - CA WORKED FINE WITH NEW CORES WHICH IS WHAT I AM USING NOW.

CHEAP CORES EAT FLUX AND DON'T CHANGE POLARITY WELL... KIND OF LIKE STOBORN PEOPLE WHO WASTE ENERGY AND WON'T CHANGE THEIR MIND.

CHEAP CORES WASTE ROTOR KINETIC ENERGY AND WASTE HV COIL DELAYED "ACCELERATING" FLUX.

T

If you would, do this test for the group then... what is the core drag for one leg of a mot, three legs of a mot, one leg of the new material, three legs of the new material?

DEAR GROUP OF ONE OR IS IT THE I_RON GROUP?

YOU DO IT - YOU ARE THE RETIRED GROUP HERE. AND WHILE YOU ARE AT IS DO A GRAPH OF CORE DRAG vs SPEED AT 0 RPM ALL THE WAY UP TO 3500 RPM OR SO AND YOU WILL SEE HOW MUCH IT DIMINISHES WITH INCREASING RPM.

I BET YOUR CORE DRAG IS CLOSE TO 500 OR MORE WATTS AT 0 RPM.

T

[i_ron]

SO YOU ACCELERATED A 10 LB(?) MASS FROM 3217 RPM TO 3330 RPM AND INCREASED THE STORED INERTIA (ENERGY) IN THE FLYWHEEL WITHOUT ADDING ANY ADDITIONAL ENERGY TO THE MOTOR - BRAVO YOU JUST VIOLATED THE WORK ENERGY PRINCIPLE AND THE LAW OF CONSERVATION OF ENERGY!


T

One way to look at it but this and what I have been saying needs a qualifier. Because the nature
of this motor is part of the problem. As the motor is "allowed" to speed up the draw of the motor
decreases. So to be precise, the experiments should be run at a constant RPM. When for example
the HV coil is engaged the rpm should be held constant by reducing the input to the motor. Then the
before and after wattage readings compared. But then you have heard all this before....

Ron

[hoptoad]

Be serious for a minute, run the rotor only up to a given voltage, record the amps and the RPM,
this is your baseline.

Put a crappy mot core on and run it up to the previous voltage and record the amps and RPM… this is your core drag for that material.

Now put your new core material on and do the same thing… this will give you
the core drag of the new material.

You can then look at the numbers and do a “how much less drag the new material has” comparison.

But you start with a baseline, then as you add one core... two cores or more then you have some
idea of what the cost is...

Ron

@I_Ron
Three times already I have asked Thane if his generator causes the rotor to speed up to or beyond its maximum speed attainable by the driving motor when there is no coil or core presented to the rotor. Each time he has said YES. But this is the one aspect of comparative testing he has not showed in any of his videos. Gee, I wonder why ?

Perhaps if he spent less time trying to insult and ridicule those who ask these valid questions and put them to the test, he might already have allayed many criticisms of his comparative methods and his interpretation of the resultant data.

Cheers