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Overunity Machines Forum



Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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i_ron

Quote from: CRANKYpants on March 18, 2009, 06:52:48 AM
"This means 100 times less drag torque felt by the drive motor! (therefore the common shaft speeds up when coils are shorted, duhhhh)

Now I will also say, that heavily loading certain geometry of generator, can produce some gain.  I have several examples on the bench which do.  But they are proprietary and I don't care to share this with lists.

You have to measure True power at the shaft input via torque sensing and speed, against True output power.

There could be a small amount of gain in his sloppy and amateurish system

Pick or know the optimal final speed of the system.  Use only this shaft speed for all measurements.

Measure all parameters in a generator "no load" condition including:

Then include the mag fields and measure the input drag power (torque times angular velocity).

overunity may not come in the form you wish it to!"

DMBoss


"As has been stated by others, but in another way:

1. you take a motor(x) that runs at 'x' watts
2. put the coils(y) next to it, motor runs at 'x+y' watts
3. activate(z) the coils, motor runs at 'x+y-z' watts and produces 'w' watts.  Net = (x+y-z) + w

To be OU #3  needs to outperform #1
Thanks!"
Ron

???   "You have to measure True power at the shaft input via torque sensing and speed, against True output power".   ???
DMBoss

"Ryobi, running with no load on line voltage, is not that efficient.
On 117 volts it uses .92 amps, wow, 107 watts!"

Ron


"Oh, btw, yes you are correct, it should be 96 watts (or so) I put that in like that to see if anyone
was paying attention.... do you believe that? lol"

Ron



I think if we just work this through, a step at a time... like the economy... everything will be fine

Ron

hydrocontrol

Quote from: i_ron on March 18, 2009, 11:11:02 AM

I think if we just work this through, a step at a time... like the economy... everything will be fine

Ron

An Olive branch...... with thorns...

i_ron

Quote from: CRANKYpants on March 18, 2009, 08:01:14 AM
"What the squabble is about. This was basically a private matter"….
Ron

"PS:
Any information received will be treated as confidential and held as if an NDA had been signed. RHP"
Ron


"it would seem I have been shown the door"
Ron





Yes, I should not have posted the Ca rotor pic without your permission but it was germane to the
implication you posed and is not an NDA disclosure. It does not reveal any "secret" workings of
your invention. You repeatedly stress full disclosure so I had felt that it fitted those guidelines.

"You can always tell the statue of a leader by the quality of the people he attracts around him.
Whereas a leader who collects only sycophants and yes men is surely of low order."

A Ron saying



JustMe

Quote from: i_ron on March 18, 2009, 11:39:36 AM
You can always tell the statue of a leader by the quality of the people he attracts around him.
Whereas a leader who collects only sycophants and yes men is surely of low order.

A Ron saying


Yes. You're absolutely right. Yes.  Absolutely! Yes.

:P

P.S. Thane, stop being mean to Ron!

P.P.S.  Ron, stop being mean to Thane!

mackensteff

Can't we all just get along?!?   :'(  For the children's sake.  Actually I am serious, you two were a good team, and although I am skeptical I read everyday, not for the soap opera, or humor, but because Thane's original motivation and mission statements I completely agreed with and saw something you don't see often, humanity.  It is unfortunate that the canadians will prove once again there are no heros, idols, or role models.  (I was a huge Ben Johnson fan, and that was the last sports figure I ever admired, and have found continually since there are no role models for the greater good, but there sure are a large group of people I don't ever want to be associated with, and this groups only gets bigger!)