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Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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hydrocontrol

Quote from: SkyWatcher123 on April 02, 2009, 11:47:45 PM
Hi folks, Hi hydrocontrol, thanks for the reply and it doesnt surpise me about the dead end in regards to the Muller generator those folks were replicating, seems alot of that has occured in the past lets hope the now and future will be on the side of freedom. I'm winding the other 30 guage coil/core right now but heres a pic of the crude test setup with the 24 guage coil/core and those are 1" dia. neo's 3/4" deep.

peace love light

Any news on the replication with 30 gauge wire ?
I am starting to accumulate the materials needed to make this generator so I can attach it to a windmill ;)
This thread really needs a starting place with only one updated file for replication effort. Thane has tried so many things I have lost track of all details. Details like :
Size and strength of magnets ?
Purchase source for magnets ?
Rotor size ?
Magnet placement on rotor ?
Are all magnets poles facing the same direction ?
Distance of coils from magnet face ?
What is the core material of the coils and where can it be purchased ?
What is that backing ring of the coils that Thane has in the latest videos ? Looks like some large
lamented transformer coil with more lamented pegs sticking out with the coils place on the pegs.

Things I can figure out. Wire size. Number of turns based upon resistance of Thane's coils shown in video. Basic concept understood. Can this be scaled down to fit inside a 12"in round x 24"in long wind will generator box ? ;)  Time to start getting hands dirty. Need a little more refined direction.

CRANKYpants

Quote from: hydrocontrol on April 07, 2009, 09:17:01 PM
Thane,

Of course to get to the "magic" RPM I might have to gear the prop up. 2500 RPM seems a bit much.. It would be nicer to have the effect at 500 RPM
Which cores are the best for the HV coils and where can I buy some ?


YOU CAN HAVE A DRIVESHAFT SPINNING AT 500 RPM BUT HAVE A ROTOR WITH 100 POLES (MORE OR LESS) WHICH WILL PROVIDE THE FREQUENCY REQUIRED TO INCREASE THE COIL IMPEDENCE HIGH ENOUGH WHICH WILL REDUCE THE CURRENT LOW ENOUGH - SUCH THAT LENZ'S LAW IS COMPLETELY ABSENT.

WE CAN GET THE EFFECT AND HAVE SHOWN (IN THE VIDEOS) ACCELERATION @ 100 RPM.
NOW WE ARE FOCUSSING ON DEFINING THE WIRE GAUGE, MAGNETIC FIELD STRENGTH, & FREQUENCY BOUNDRIES FOR EVENTUAL MANUFACTURING AND PRODUCTION.

SO AS YOU SAY:
- A WINDMILL WOULD EMPLOY THE 100 RPM ACCELERATION DESIGN
- AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE WOULD USE THE 2500 RPM DESIGN - EMPLOYING REGENERATIVE ACCELERATION & REGENERATIVE BRAKING IF REQUIRED.

CORE MATERIAL:
GO ONLINE AND FIND REALLY GOOD QUALITY CORE M2, OR M3 HERE IS SOME GOOD INFO: http://www.kryfs.com/tech_articles.htm

CHEERS
T



hydrocontrol

Quote from: CRANKYpants on April 08, 2009, 10:48:49 AM
YOU CAN HAVE A DRIVESHAFT SPINNING AT 500 RPM BUT HAVE A ROTOR WITH 100 POLES (MORE OR LESS) WHICH WILL PROVIDE THE FREQUENCY REQUIRED TO INCREASE THE COIL IMPEDENCE HIGH ENOUGH WHICH WILL REDUCE THE CURRENT LOW ENOUGH - SUCH THAT LENZ'S LAW IS COMPLETELY ABSENT.

WE CAN GET THE EFFECT AND HAVE SHOWN (IN THE VIDEOS) ACCELERATION @ 100 RPM.
NOW WE ARE FOCUSSING ON DEFINING THE WIRE GAUGE, MAGNETIC FIELD STRENGTH, & FREQUENCY BOUNDRIES FOR EVENTUAL MANUFACTURING AND PRODUCTION.

SO AS YOU SAY:
- A WINDMILL WOULD EMPLOY THE 100 RPM ACCELERATION DESIGN
- AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE WOULD USE THE 2500 RPM DESIGN - EMPLOYING REGENERATIVE ACCELERATION & REGENERATIVE BRAKING IF REQUIRED.

CORE MATERIAL:
GO ONLINE AND FIND REALLY GOOD QUALITY CORE M2, OR M3 HERE IS SOME GOOD INFO: http://www.kryfs.com/tech_articles.htm
CHEERS
T
Thanks Thane,
So it looks like the four microwave transformers I had purchased earlier for replication could be cut up and used with two HV coils for each inverted transformer core. Of course they would not be as good as your reference cores above but I already have them.. Now to get a boat load of 30 gauge wire and create a machine to wind the spools. I wonder how much I_ron would charge me to build a rotor ?

CRANKYpants

Quote from: hydrocontrol on April 08, 2009, 10:14:41 AM
Any news on the replication with 30 gauge wire ?
I am starting to accumulate the materials needed to make this generator so I can attach it to a windmill ;)
This thread really needs a starting place with only one updated file for replication effort. Thane has tried so many things I have lost track of all details. Details like :
Size and strength of magnets ?
Purchase source for magnets ?
Rotor size ?
Magnet placement on rotor ?
Are all magnets poles facing the same direction ?
Distance of coils from magnet face ?
What is the core material of the coils and where can it be purchased ?
What is that backing ring of the coils that Thane has in the latest videos ? Looks like some large
lamented transformer coil with more lamented pegs sticking out with the coils place on the pegs.

Things I can figure out. Wire size. Number of turns based upon resistance of Thane's coils shown in video. Basic concept understood. Can this be scaled down to fit inside a 12"in round x 24"in long wind will generator box ? ;)  Time to start getting hands dirty. Need a little more refined direction.


ALWAYS START WITH THE LATEST VIDEO...

WE ARE HAVING TOROID CORES MANUFACTURED THAT WILL HAVE THE COIL FINGERS ATTACHED (TAC WELDED) TO THEM TO MINIMIZE EDDY CURRENTS.

EVERY PARAMETER IS A VARIABLE AND EVERY VARIABLE PRODUCES DIFFERENT RESULTS SO THE DESIGN PARAMETERS I.E. (WHAT TASK YOU WANT THE GENERATOR TO PERFORM) HAS TO BE DEFINED UP FRONT.

SO IF YOU WANT A 1 KW GENERATOR THAT WILL NOT PRODUCE LENZ DECELERATION ABOVE X? RPM YOU HAVE TO SPECIFY IT - THEN...
HOW MANY POLES AND HOW BIG CAN THE ROTOR PHYSICALLY BE ETC.

NOW ONCE YOU DECIDE ON THE NUMER OF PERMANENT MAGNET POLES (AND STRENGTH) YOU CAN THEN NARROW DOWN THE WIRE GAUGE AND # OF TURNS REQUIRED TO BE LENZ FREE BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO DEFINE THE BATTERY LOAD BOUNDRIES AND STRIVE TO OPERATE BETWEEN THEM.

ALSO YOUR BLADE SIZE WILL DETERMINE THE UPPER MASS LIMIT OF YOUR ROTOR - WHICH IN TURN LIMITS MAGNET SIZE & WEIGHT. NOW IF YOU DECIDE TO MAGNETICALLY SUSPEND YOUR ROTOR THEN - THIS IS ANOTHER STORY ENTIRELY.  ;)

CHEERS
T

CRANKYpants

Quote from: hydrocontrol on April 08, 2009, 10:58:36 AM
Thanks Thane,
So it looks like the four microwave transformers I had purchased earlier for replication could be cut up and used with two HV coils for each inverted transformer core. Of course they would not be as good as your reference cores above but I already have them.. Now to get a boat load of 30 gauge wire and create a machine to wind the spools. I wonder how much I_ron would charge me to build a rotor ?

THOSE CORES ARE ONLY GOOD ENOUGH TO BE USED AS DOOR STOPS FOR YOUR SHOP - NOTHING ELSE!

T